Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by ghaff on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:03AM
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I'd like to agree but the evidence suggests differently, e.g. [1] Arguably, there was an increased awareness in the US of drunk driving as a problem during that period but the effect still seems to be real even correcting for that.
Of course, if we assume a completely different culture around alcohol, the results might well be different.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by Tehnix on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:15AM
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Ah, I should maybe have been more clear. My point was that it would have better effects to change the culture around drinking, rather than increasing the age limit of when you can drink.
I’m not suggesting that it’s an easy thing to do though.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by danans on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:14PM
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Another approach is to change technology.
Volvo has keys with a built-in breathalyzer: https://accessories.volvocars.com/en-us/C30/Accessories/Docu...
And of course, autonomous vehicles could make drinking a non-issue for getting around, just like trains and buses do today.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by saghm on Thursday March 21, 2019 @01:52PM
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If this were a universal thing, I could see it helping, but unfortunately I'd be surprised if only people who opt in having this feature makes a significant dent in the issue.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by Y_Y on Thursday March 21, 2019 @02:59PM
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Well people do exercise this option if they are obliged to by a court ruling, or if it gets them a lower insurance premium.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by saghm on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:57PM
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Fair enough!
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by TulliusCicero on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:10AM
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Most US states do allow some measure of underage drinking with parental permission, IIRC. But it's true that that's not really a strong/common part of the culture.
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by ghaff on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:14AM
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As a practical if not legal matter, people can do more or less as they please in their own homes. But I'm personally glad I went to college at a time when drinking alcohol was pretty much all above board. (At least at the time, the fact that the drinking age was legally 18 meant that drinking as a college student was pretty much OK even if you weren't actually 18 yet. The local bar we frequented was fine with just a college ID; they didn't otherwise check age.)
Re:Japan plans to lower age of adulthood to 18 (2018)
by gambiting on Thursday March 21, 2019 @10:02AM
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Well yes, your own home is certainly one thing. But I'm pretty sure in the UK you can totally order alcohol for your own kid at a restaurant and it's not illegal as long as the parent gives permission. In some other places it's illegal for someone to sell alcohol knowing that it will be consumed by a minor - so that scenario couldn't happen.
I contrast this to my own country, Denmark, where we are much more lax about drinking. You can buy alcohol lower than 16% at age 16, and you can get your drivers license at 18. Parents accept that people will probably slowly start out drinking before this though, and are therefore more involved with this aspect of young people’s lives. This means they also has a chance to supervisor, guide and help their children manage this new experience of being drunk, and educate them on how it works.
At least that’s my armchair take on it :)