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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by detaro on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @04:31AM (#19440088)
The UN has a definition for "Intact Forest Landscapes". Little of those are left in Europe, the majority in Russia and Scandinavia. Western/Central Europe has only tiny slivers of any.
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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by benj111 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:20AM (#19440323)
I'm confused by your point.

"Intact Forest Landscapes" seems to exclude any human made forest. So are you against all human planting of forests?

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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by pygy_ on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @12:01PM (#19443500)
Artificial forests are bound to be less resilient than wild ones.

The lack of biodiversity is a major concern, since we often take shortcuts by planting cuttings, which are genetic clones, or by using an initial pool that isn't sufficiently diverse.

An artificial forest is better than no forest, off course, but wild, ancient forests are more precious, since they are living DNA libraries.

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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by detaro on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:47AM (#19440460)
I was providing data for your

> I doubt theres a forest in Europe that hasn't been touched by man.

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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by cf141q5325 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:44AM (#19442040)
There is some but its extremely rare. In Germany you for example have the Hambacher Forst, where parts are as old as 700 years. Its scale is however lacking

https://www.dw.com/image/45302299_401.png

Generally you have "untouched" as in oldgrowth/primary forest and not being a secondary forest, which takes a few hundred years.

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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by benj111 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:20AM (#19440632)
Sorry, I thought you were providing your definition of natural forest
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Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do by cf141q5325 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:13AM (#19441276)
Another common term is old-growth/primary forest
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