Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by detaro on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @04:31AM
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The UN has a definition for "Intact Forest Landscapes". Little of those are left in Europe, the majority in Russia and Scandinavia. Western/Central Europe has only tiny slivers of any.
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by benj111 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:20AM
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I'm confused by your point.
"Intact Forest Landscapes" seems to exclude any human made forest. So are you against all human planting of forests?
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by pygy_ on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @12:01PM
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Artificial forests are bound to be less resilient than wild ones.
The lack of biodiversity is a major concern, since we often take shortcuts by planting cuttings, which are genetic clones, or by using an initial pool that isn't sufficiently diverse.
An artificial forest is better than no forest, off course, but wild, ancient forests are more precious, since they are living DNA libraries.
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by detaro on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:47AM
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I was providing data for your
> I doubt theres a forest in Europe that hasn't been touched by man.
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by cf141q5325 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:44AM
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There is some but its extremely rare. In Germany you for example have the Hambacher Forst, where parts are as old as 700 years. Its scale is however lacking
https://www.dw.com/image/45302299_401.png
Generally you have "untouched" as in oldgrowth/primary forest and not being a secondary forest, which takes a few hundred years.
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by benj111 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:20AM
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Sorry, I thought you were providing your definition of natural forest
Re:China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
by cf141q5325 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:13AM
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Another common term is old-growth/primary forest
I doubt theres a forest in Europe that hasn't been touched by man.
Venice would have been very selective about the wood it would have cut for ships etc, you can't just cut any old wood. It needs to be knot free, be straight, or have just the right curvature. They weren't clear felling vast swathes, then replanting. I'm not even sure the was conscious planting at all.