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Re:Update on New Zealand by rconti on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @05:39PM (#19436256)
1.5 million videos of the attack? As in, not Shares, but someone downloading or capping the video somehow, and re-uploading it?

Damn, that's a LOT of people with access to the original source, or a copy of a copy, having a really strong desire to share the video on their personal or throwaway account.

Re:Update on New Zealand by panarky on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @05:59PM (#19436466)
This is what gets lost in Facebook's statement, by design.

The killer livestreamed to Facebook and people captured that video and re-uploaded back to Facebook 1,500,000 times.

A cursory read of their statement would have you believe it was only viewed 4,000 times.

This is criminally dishonest.

Re:Update on New Zealand by parliament32 on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:03PM (#19436510)
That number also strikes me as odd; it's improbably high. They're most likely referring to removing shares/links to the video, not re-uploads.
Re:Update on New Zealand by panarky on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:52PM (#19436960)
> In the first 24 hours, we removed about 1.5 million videos of the attack globally. More than 1.2 million of those videos were blocked at upload, and were therefore prevented from being seen on our services.

1.2m "blocked at upload". Not shares or links.

Remaining 300k were not "blocked at upload".

This is why Facebook's specific numbers like "4000 times" are so insidious and deceptive.

It's what they intentionally neglect to say that's important here.

Re:Update on New Zealand by bryan_w on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @02:58AM (#19439677)
I'm not sure why you think this point is deceptive. In the 24 hr period, 1.2 mil videos were blocked at upload 300k videos were uploaded, reported and blocked. That's pretty clear from the statement. Am I missing something?
Re:Update on New Zealand by panarky on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:34AM (#19441936)
I see many quotes that the video was only viewed 4000 times, and that Facebook blocked it "within minutes".

That's deceptive because it only covers the original video and not the copies which is really irrelevant.

And it's deceptive because it starts the clock when NZ police alerted Facebook, even though it's Facebook's responsibility to manage their platform, not the police's responsibility.

If the video was re-uploaded and not blocked 300,000 times, then total views is most likely in the millions.

And Facebook continued to disseminate this material for thousands of minutes.

I can only conclude these more important numbers are intentionally excluded from Facebook's report because Facebook wants people to focus on the other, meaningless numbers instead.

That's deceptive.