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Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by Justsignedup on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @03:59PM (#19435082)
There is a huge cost. Maintainers have major time commitments, and we hear jobs looking for people's OSS contributions. Which is cool and all until you realize that some people work at Facebook on React and get to publish to OSS as their day job, and some people like myself have kids and a proprietary software job.

So I fully support companies offering their software free, except to run commercially.

To note, about 8 years ago I saw many companies and people open sourcing interesting software. This was for personal gains... They were a consulting company. ThoughtBot was a good example, they made tools, they made blogs about ruby on rails, they also sold their professional services. And it worked.

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by hw on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @02:36AM (#19439590)
Totally agree. Sometimes you just have to pay the bills. There are some projects that are extremely well done OSS but also have an 'Enterprise' side to them that's paid and offers more advanced features normally required by commercial entities:

1. Sidekiq (https://github.com/mperham/sidekiq) 2. Couchbase (https://www.couchbase.com)

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by svnpenn on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @10:20PM (#19438304)
interesting

what license would you even use for that - it seems everything here allows commercial

https://choosealicense.com/appendix

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by captainbland on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:08AM (#19441650)
I guess the Fair Source License should fit in there:

https://fair.io/#license

This is basically "you're free to use the application and the source unless you're a company where 25 people or more will be using/modifying this software". Mind you, I see an issue with this where proving that the number of people are actually using the software is difficult. I'd prefer a version where it's just the number of people in the organisation in total.

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by slavik81 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @10:02AM (#19442247)
I don't think I could use that software as a student. Even if I was considered independent of the school (which is unclear), my professor would not be, so I would not be able to use software under that license in a project for credit.
Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by witten on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @01:16AM (#19439223)
Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by sudhirj on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @01:44AM (#19439351)
Aren’t Creaive Commons licenses not suitable for code? Can’t find a reference but they seemed pretty clear about that.
Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by mch82 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @02:24AM (#19439539)
Correct, Creative Commons recommends using alternate licenses for code. See “Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software?”, https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-apply-a-creative-comm...

Creative Commons licenses are good for documentation and manuals.

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by witten on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:21AM (#19509489)
You are correct. And yet I've found multiple cases in which they're used for code.
Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by suls on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @08:00PM (#19437494)
Did you mean ThoughtWorks?
Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by papa_bear on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @08:18PM (#19437592)
I had heard of ThoughtBot, but not ThoughtWorks. Seems like both are relevant examples:

https://github.com/thoughtbot

https://github.com/thoughtworks

Re:Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed ... by gbraad on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @10:05PM (#19438222)
ThoughtWorks and ThoughtBot are different companies, of which TW is well-known due to Martin Fowler, the many debates about the relevance of TDD, agile practices, etc, and they have offices all over the world. They started work on tools, like CruiseControl, and open sourced this. To me it never felt like they made tools open source first, but rather a need that came to have them stay relevant as other, often times better Open Source-first tools came around. The same happened with GoCD.

ThoughtBot came around later, and feels much like a adhering to a lot of the similar cultural habits.

Note: I worked for TW, currently at Red Hat. Note 2: Somne of TW's projects under the other pillars are open source first, but aren't related to this topic.