Addressing Spotify’s Claims

Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by emsy on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:26AM (#19397722)

That's not a good comparison. An iOS device is not like a book shop. The iBooks application is. Nobody's asking that you can buy Kindle books in iBooks, but you can't even buy Kindle books in the Kindle app because Apple would demand 30% of the book. If you open the Kindle app on Windows you can buy books in there and Microsoft doesn't take a cut of the sale. People would lose their mind over this. Why is Apple different?

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by pjmlp on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:36AM (#19397774)

You can import books via iTunes.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by headmelted on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:45AM (#19397802)

You're still missing the point.

Apple owns a mall (iOS). In that mall, Apple owns a book store (iTunes). Amazon also has a book store in the mall (Kindle).

Apple does not want to sell Amazon's books (Kindle format ebooks) in it's store (iTunes). Ok.

Apple decrees that no store in the mall shall sell any books but iTunes books, which only they may sell. Not Ok.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by andromeduck on Friday March 15, 2019 @05:22AM (#19397993)

Amazon is free to sell books in their app, they just need to pay a portion of their revenue for the privilege of doing so much like in the mall.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by emsy on Friday March 15, 2019 @06:00AM (#19398186)

And Apple is forcing everyone to sell in their mall and no other. That's pretty much the point.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by pjmlp on Friday March 15, 2019 @06:21AM (#19398289)

There are other malls available, across the world Apple's mall is quite small.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by kelnos on Friday March 15, 2019 @07:31AM (#19398648)

We're not talking about the world. We're talking about the universe of the iPhone.

In the brick-and-mortar world, malls are fungible, and stores that sell the same goods are fungible. The iPhone is not fungible.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by pjmlp on Friday March 15, 2019 @08:21AM (#19398990)

We are talking about the universe of mobile devices.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by kelnos on Friday March 15, 2019 @08:23AM (#19399006)

You are; I don't think we are. Spotify certainly isn't, and it may be entirely reasonable to view the world through that lens.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by emsy on Friday March 15, 2019 @07:41AM (#19398711)

In relative numbers yes, but I wouldn't call short of a billion active devices "quite small".

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by pjmlp on Friday March 15, 2019 @08:23AM (#19399001)

Still, there is a choice for anyone that wants to sell products.

Anyone that wants to constrain themselves to a single market, needs to accept the rules of focusing on a single market.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by Orphis on Friday March 15, 2019 @10:11AM (#19399822)

Are you really free to do something if it comes with highly unfavorable conditions then?

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by had2makeanact on Friday March 15, 2019 @11:47AM (#19400737)

Do malls take a portion of the revenue generated from the stores? I assumed they just paid rent and kept the money generated.

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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by andromeduck on Monday March 18, 2019 @08:09PM (#19426685)

How malls and stores negotiate rental agreement is very ad-hoc and strategic but yeah it is often directly or indirectly tied to revenue.

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