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Re:Toyota's Takaoka #2 Line: The Most Flexible Line in the W... by xvilka on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:00AM (#19397584)
It is just a matter of time before better, more precise and accurate robots will be created.
Re:Toyota's Takaoka #2 Line: The Most Flexible Line in the W... by linuslarsson on Friday March 15, 2019 @07:11AM (#19398551)
Precision is not the biggest issue here. There are very precise robots out there.

The big issue is improvement of standardized work. If you automate early you get tethered by subpar standards. This is natural when you have workers: you iterate work instructions and what tools to use together as a group. This is basically how Toyota is so good at producing: every worker know what to do and when to do it. They haven't always been like this; they have slowly iterated into what they are today.

Improving on work instructions for a robot is tideaus at best, and really, really costly as a worst case: you either re-program, or you're forced to reinvest if the robot isn't capable of the new movements/steps.

Re:Toyota's Takaoka #2 Line: The Most Flexible Line in the W... by carlmr on Friday March 15, 2019 @05:14AM (#19397959)
Yes, but you still have the problem of bringing this process into your production line and finding out how it makes you more efficient or better.

Musk also had to learn some lessons Toyota learned years ago, because he trusted a bit too much in automation.

If you want to automate something, you need to know exactly all the corner cases, every step of what the human is doing to make it work. The robots are precise enough, but it's often not that easy to describe the tasks to them.

Re:Toyota's Takaoka #2 Line: The Most Flexible Line in the W... by lnsru on Friday March 15, 2019 @05:46AM (#19398108)
How are these robots programmed? Just a sequence of position movements and affector actions depending on few digital inputs of light curtains or sensors?
Re:Toyota's Takaoka #2 Line: The Most Flexible Line in the W... by bluedino on Friday March 15, 2019 @10:14AM (#19399857)
In the most simple cases, yes. Parametric programming is popular, where you can define an item and then scale it in a number of factors and only need one program for thousands of possible premutations of that item.

Think about a company that produces screws, they don't have a program for every possible screw they make. Same goes for a more complicated item like a metal box with a door on it.