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Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by johnchristopher on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:28AM (#19336658)
Why is Israel in a European list ?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by gonsanchezs on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:31AM (#19336671)
Usually, the Isreal/Tel Aviv tech scene is "grouped" with the European scene. A bunch of publications cover Europe + Israel, so I figured why not.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by wongarsu on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:42AM (#19337009)
While Israel is a very unique cultural blend, I would call them more European than Middle Eastern. And for immigration culture is arguably more important than geography.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by jjgreen on Friday March 08, 2019 @09:03AM (#19337518)
Because it takes part in (and occasionally wins) the Eurovision song contest.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by atq2119 on Friday March 08, 2019 @09:31AM (#19337737)
By that logic, Australia is European, too :-)

Though I don't think they've won yet.

Realistically, the main reason that Israel is often counted with Europe is probably that they don't get along well with their neighbors. The implications for stuff like sports competitions could be nasty.

Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by pjc50 on Friday March 08, 2019 @10:46AM (#19338502)
> The implications for stuff like sports competitions could be nasty.

After the murder of Israeli athletes by the PLO/Black September at the Munich Olympics, that seems a long way off.

Eurovision-wise the story is a little sad: Lebanon wanted to enter, but since the country forbids broadcasting Israeli content (!) and the EBU refuses to let countries cut the programme, this was impossible. I believe this rule was inspired by a previous incident where an Arab country cut away to a vase of flowers for 3 minutes to avoid broadcasting the Israeli entry.

Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by 0xfaded on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:47AM (#19337041)
Don't really know much about Israel other than what I see in the news. What is an example of someone who would move there who isn't already entitled via religious connections?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by oblio on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:23AM (#19337248)
People from countries with lower salaries, obviously :)
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by aerodog on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:40AM (#19336709)
But not Turkey...(?)
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by TomMarius on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:53AM (#19336779)
Probably because the culture is separated, which is not the case with Israel?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by gnulinux on Friday March 08, 2019 @11:53AM (#19339306)
I worked in a startup in Turkey (Istanbul) years ago (currently working in a startup in Boston). The culture was pretty "Western". The office had a beer fountain and my manager was really chill, it was an enjoyable experience. Not sure if you would be able to find that in any other part of the country though.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by TomMarius on Saturday March 09, 2019 @01:50AM (#19344868)
I heard Turkey has changed a lot in the past 5 years. Do you think it'd be the same today?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by gnulinux on Saturday March 09, 2019 @02:31PM (#19347965)
I don't know sorry. This was ~7 years ago and I lived in the US since then. I would guess it highly depends on the company. The company I worked for was a hardware/iot/web startup that was doing really fascinating work, and got good investment, and founders were graduates of best universities in Turkey. My guess is if you research the company and see that the culture is something you like, it's probably possible to find another company like that. Though I would admit finding a job somewhere else in Europe is probably orders of magnitude safer. I wouldn't do it today, but that's because I have a job I love in the US.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by gonsanchezs on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:04AM (#19336823)
It's not a full list, I'm adding new entries every day. Happy to include Turkey if you send over the details.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by wongarsu on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:33AM (#19336966)
And no Russia?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by TomMarius on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:17AM (#19337209)
Russia is usually considered CIS, not Europe+friends: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_St...