Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by camillomiller on Friday March 08, 2019 @03:18AM
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CNES isn’t working on consumer products used by billions of people, which where popular enough to generate a market for media publications devoted to only talk about them.
The comparison is completely clueless.
Where you to spill the beans on some new CNES innovation in a bar, the best you can aspire to is a “cool story bro” remark from some drunk fella sitting next to you.
Try doing that when you’re an Apple engineer working on the iPhone and your beer burps will be the pullquote of a Bloomberg piece in two hours.
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by mstade on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:24AM
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Funny you should mention a bar: https://gizmodo.com/this-is-apples-next-iphone-5520164
:o)
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by camillomiller on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:45AM
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That was the reference ;)
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by simonh on Friday March 08, 2019 @03:20AM
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So you're saying security at this marketing driven consumer products company isn't so special, because government agencies developing top secret military technology are far more secure? Well, I suppose you're right but I don't think that's the sort of comparison most people would make.
Apple makes mass market products by the zillions and has a long external supply chain. They can't put everyone in tubes.
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by CM30 on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:49AM
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I don't think making mass market products or having a long supply chain necessarily means you can't keep secrets. I mean, Nintendo seems pretty damn good at keeping their cards close to their chest, arguably even better than Apple in that sense, and they've got a decent supply chain and mass market products. Same goes with Valve.
Quite a few smaller companies there are the same way too. You very rarely hear about leaks coming from Retro Studios or Rare for example. Companies have definitely have a more secretive culture, and while it won't 100% stop leaks, it'll definitely keep them to the bare minimum.
Ok, but you're replying to something I didn't say.
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by buzzerbetrayed on Friday March 08, 2019 @03:20AM
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And, 99% of people don't care about the secrets that CNES is hiding. Most people are actually interested in Apple's next product, making it much hard to keep a secret.
I was also sort of hoping for suggestions on how Apple can efficiently put more people in tubes.
Re:How does Apple keep secrets so well? (2012)
by coldtea on Friday March 08, 2019 @03:39AM
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>I don't see what so special about apple. A lot of entities manage to keep secrets very well.
A lot of entities where everybody and their dog (including all the media) care and want to get the scoop about their latest products?
Or places like CNES, where 90% of people have never even heard of or care about?
Take the CNES (National Centre for Space Studies in europe): they have individual scanner gates at each entrances. You can't get in without your whole body being trapped in a tube, alone. You can move anywhere without the proper clearance, and often somebody going with you. Each room is locked out with a card system. All the corridors look the same, so an attacker would have a hard time going somewhere specifically. The IT system is seriously locked down. Yet in all rooms you'll find prototypes, scale models and pictures, so that everybody is proud to work here and feel a sense of responsibility.
Protecting industrial secrets is not an apple thing.