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A comment on DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’.

Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by jagger27 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @02:25PM (#19331268)
About time. I've noticed ECC DDR3 prices are falling quite a bit in the used market, which is great for my homelab.
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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by lozaning on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:33PM (#19332054)
Im running an old opencompute windmill server I picked up when facebook surplussed all of theirs, cant recommend the thing enough. 2 nodes with dual 8 core xeons with HT each, 10GB networking and I've stuffed them with ~256GB of ram, pcie based nvme ssd, and RX480s. Use one as a vm/container host and the other as a workstation.

Its more like a freight train than a sports car, but i routinely see Chrome taking up 57 GB of ram on the node I use as my workstation and kinda just laugh.

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by effie on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:41PM (#19332770)
How are you measuring the amount of memory Chrome takes? Do you calculate PSS somehow? It is quite non-trivial to determine this number, due to the complexity of memory allocation.
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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by lozaning on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:17PM (#19333101)
Roughly adding up the amount of memory that all the Chrome processes seen in the Windows task manager report using.

In hindsight I should have clarified that this was not intended to be a dig against chrome. I've frequently got hundreds of tabs open, because with the amount of memory I've got, why not?

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by imtringued on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:18AM (#19336889)
Hundreds of tabs shouldn't consume significantly more than 2GB unless you are running demanding webapps.
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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by akhilcacharya on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:56PM (#19332303)
How much was it? What’s the powe consumption like?
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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by lozaning on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:38PM (#19333314)
Looks like ESISO still has some for sale for $381.00[1]. You'll still have to get storage, more memory (if you want), and a gpu.

The single PSU of the chassis that supplies power to both nodes does require 220V power, but I solved this easily enough with a 2000 watt step up transformer off of amazon. I've also jerry rigged up an additional ATX power supply as the native chassis psu doesn't have 6 pin power connectors to power the GPUs.

I've never calculated how much power the thing pulls under full load, but considering that I've never had any instability I've got to assume it's less than the 2000 watts tha transformer can handle + the 400 watt ATX psu for the GPUs. I've got flat rate electric from my landlord, so it's essentially free to run for me.

[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/QUANTA-OPEN-COMPUTE-SERVER-2x-NODES...

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by bzillins on Thursday March 07, 2019 @06:24PM (#19333683)
The newer winterfell nodes [1] have made their way to ebay at sub 100$ and do not have the exotic power requirements of the earlier dual sled windmill nodes. You can easily power them off of a converted server power supply via diy [2] or commercial [3] means. Windmill nodes have more space on the pcie riser and quieter fans going for them as well.

1) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quanta-Winterfell-Barebone-Node-2x-... 2) http://colintd.blogspot.com/2016/10/hacking-hp-common-slot-p... 3) https://www.parallelminer.com/product/breakout-board-adapter...

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by lozaning on Thursday March 07, 2019 @10:02PM (#19334749)
Oh nice, I think I have all the DIY power stuff already from my old ethereum mining farm. At $100 we're well into impulse buy territory.
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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by TheCowboy on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:17PM (#19331873)
It's hard to go wrong for price/performance when building a server out of off-lease enterprise gear, especially with ECC DDR3 being dirt cheap. People might think this means loud rackmount servers, but you can find boards for most form factors.

There's a small scene for people who do this and share builds, so it doesn't take much research to get started.

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by walterbell on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:52PM (#19332259)
> There's a small scene for people who do this and share builds, so it doesn't take much research to get started.

Recommendations on sites/forums?

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by TheCowboy on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:00PM (#19332972)
https://www.serverbuilds.net/ which is an offshoot of https://www.reddit.com/user/JDM_WAAAT They also have a Discord.

r/homelabs is also good, but it can be more rackmount focused as far as gear recommendations.

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by fivefive55 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:53PM (#19332894)
I just found this subreddit yesterday, seems right up your alley.

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by nomel on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:11PM (#19331821)
Does it make sense to run 128GB of non-ECC? DDRAM is something like 1 bit error per 40 hours per gig [1]. At 128GB, you have 537k of corruption after a week of uptime, assuming you're utilizing it all.

[1] https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/sigmetrics09.pdf

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Re:DRAM Prices in ‘Freefall’ by copperx on Thursday March 07, 2019 @03:18PM (#19331886)
Why do you need RAM for chemistry experiments?
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