Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an Unfair Ban

Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by ovi256 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:01AM (#19326573)

>Actual evidence of backdoors

There doesn't have to be a backdoor today. In the future, whenever they desire, the Chinese gov can ask Huawei for access and they will comply. That's the threat model.

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by atoav on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:45AM (#19326768)

Yeah, but if you have the choice between a product with an existing history of backdoors and one which potentially, at some point in the future based on political prediction could have one, how do you choose?

Let’s assume you are not in the US and industrial spionage will be bad for you independend if it happens from China or from the US.

The answer isn’t that clearcut.

Also: banning a product based on the possibility that it could get a backdoor in the future? That would mean banning all products with an update functionality.

Edit: as you might notice this is not compelling evidence

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by zaphirplane on Thursday March 07, 2019 @02:57PM (#19331638)

You are kidding You want to use equipment from a country that is known to steal IP. Hang on you want other people to use equipment under control of the communist party Now I get it. Your social credit score has increased

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by gsich on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:21AM (#19326650)

Same applies for other countries, nobody seems to care there. With companies like Cisco you don't even need that, seeing that they have a backdoor released every other week.

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by maze-le on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:00AM (#19326834)

That just wrong. I know plenty people, that work on small-scale IT-infrastructure projects for municipal- and city-level administration. Cisco has become a liability as far as network equipment is considered.

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by jessaustin on Thursday March 07, 2019 @11:05AM (#19329143)

just wrong

Near as I can tell, you agree that Cisco is a hazard, in precisely the way that Huawei is accused of being but is not. Are you really just disagreeing with the proposition that nobody cares about Cisco's problems?

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by maze-le on Thursday March 07, 2019 @11:22AM (#19329290)

>> Are you really just disagreeing with the proposition that nobody cares about Cisco's problems?

Yes, thats what I am disagreeing with... Nothing more nothing less. No word of Huawei, since they are considered a liability by default and I don't know people that work with telephony/cell-network infrastructure.

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by zaphirplane on Thursday March 07, 2019 @02:59PM (#19331659)

You are pretending to confuse state level spying and ip theft with incompetence

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Re:Huawei Sues U.S. as a ‘Last Resort’ Over What It Calls an... by gsich on Friday March 08, 2019 @02:41AM (#19335856)

>incompetence

With Cisco it's systematic. I don't know if all their shit can be attributed to incompetence.

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