Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by anarcticpuffin on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @09:45AM
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This is why it's good practice to just never use MM/DD or DD/MM dates anywhere. 2-Mar or 2-MAR is nearly as terse but much less ambiguous. The only other date format I default to is YYYY-MM-DD (i.e. 2019-03-02). It sorts well and, by putting the year first, doesn't pick a side in the MM/DD or DD/MM battle. It just lists the terms in descending significance.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by mattashii on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @04:32PM
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Formatting, sure, but inputs...
One of our customer integrations uses all of MM-DD-YY, YY-MM-DD and DD-MM-YY for a date input. Took us quite a few man-hours to figure out why our integration layer failed so often.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by jessriedel on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @06:50AM
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Not that weird I think? Americans are a plurality and probably majority of HN commenters, and UTC is a universal time zone (hence the "U"). American astronomers would describe observations in UTC (with the American time format), regardless of the timezone the observation took place in, yet would still communicate between themselves using the American date format. (In contrast, it would indeed be weird if the European time format with the colon was intermixed with American date format, e.g., 1130 UTC on 3/4 for 11:30am on March 4th.)
That said, HN is sufficiently international that mentioning the date format to avoid confusion is good.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by SiempreViernes on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @08:44AM
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I guess amateur astronomers might use something else besides UTC or some form of Julian date to label their data, and the professionals might well put whatever date format they well choose in their directory names.
But looking at the Keck open data archive or the time conversion utility NASA hosts I found little evidence they frequently use anything else than standard iso dates.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by jessriedel on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @09:47AM
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It would make sense that Keck open data would use the international ISO standard, no? Further, NASA changed (in 1990) to the metric system, but this doesn't really change how two American astronomers would communicate with each other on a day-to-day basis.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by SiempreViernes on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @12:23PM
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It'd be pretty weird for american Astronomers to use a strange date format for their observations, but not strange if they used them when talking about their next seminar.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by alistairSH on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @08:48AM
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Curious, do any nations outside the US use M/D/YYYY?
Silly anecdote:
I have family in Scotland. Prior to getting married, we sent "save the date" cards to them. The listed date was "6/3/06" (June 3) and they were sent in February. Of course, first response from an uncle: "Well, you didn't give us much heads-up. Is she 7 months pregnant?"
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by rory096 on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @05:13PM
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Yeah that's a fair point. I actually originally had "Saturday at 07:48 UTC" and realized a few hours later it might be helpful to have a date in there... at which point I'd lost the ISO-8601 context in my head.
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by Klathmon on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @09:27AM
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This isn't a supply mission, it's a demo of a crewed mission to send people up to the ISS on SpaceX's platform.
Assuming this demo goes well, and a few other things (like an abort test at a later date with the exact capsule that they are sending up to the station goes well), then SpaceX's Falcon 9 and Dragon 2 platform will be rated for human spaceflight by NASA.
There's also a bit of a race going on to be the first private company to send people to space on a rocket. Both Boeing and SpaceX are currently neck-and-neck in the race, and I'm going to guess the winner will come down to a technicality (someone filed paperwork faster, or someone was approved more quickly than the other, or even just the ISS is in the right position at the right time and one of them has their launch date set before the other).
Re:Nasa clears SpaceX test flight to space station
by stetrain on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @11:42AM
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- Designed to carry crew
- Launch abort system (superdraco engines on the side of the capsule)
- Automated docking port, Dragon 1 has a berthing port that requires the ISS to use the CanadaArm to maneuver it in for berthing and astronauts in the ISS to make/release the connection.
From what I understand it's basically a ground up new design with a new pressure vessel. Eventually they will start using a version of Dragon 2 for cargo missions as well although supposeldy it won't have launch abort capability.
A better article: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/02/spacex-gains-frr-gre...
;-)
One of our customer integrations uses all of MM-DD-YY, YY-MM-DD and DD-MM-YY for a date input. Took us quite a few man-hours to figure out why our integration layer failed so often.
That said, HN is sufficiently international that mentioning the date format to avoid confusion is good.
But looking at the Keck open data archive or the time conversion utility NASA hosts I found little evidence they frequently use anything else than standard iso dates.
Silly anecdote: I have family in Scotland. Prior to getting married, we sent "save the date" cards to them. The listed date was "6/3/06" (June 3) and they were sent in February. Of course, first response from an uncle: "Well, you didn't give us much heads-up. Is she 7 months pregnant?"
The former is a US government agency, the latter is a mis-spelling of the capital city of the Bahamas.
Assuming this demo goes well, and a few other things (like an abort test at a later date with the exact capsule that they are sending up to the station goes well), then SpaceX's Falcon 9 and Dragon 2 platform will be rated for human spaceflight by NASA.
There's also a bit of a race going on to be the first private company to send people to space on a rocket. Both Boeing and SpaceX are currently neck-and-neck in the race, and I'm going to guess the winner will come down to a technicality (someone filed paperwork faster, or someone was approved more quickly than the other, or even just the ISS is in the right position at the right time and one of them has their launch date set before the other).
- Launch abort system (superdraco engines on the side of the capsule)
- Automated docking port, Dragon 1 has a berthing port that requires the ISS to use the CanadaArm to maneuver it in for berthing and astronauts in the ISS to make/release the connection.
From what I understand it's basically a ground up new design with a new pressure vessel. Eventually they will start using a version of Dragon 2 for cargo missions as well although supposeldy it won't have launch abort capability.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_2