Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by caramelsuit on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @12:16AM
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A wonderful exercise in forced narrative. A pastiche of turgid ramblings and half-glimpsed reasoning. A tour-de-force of self congratulation and confirmation biased wrapped in the used-toilet-paper-sheet of ideological agenda. As emetics go I can not recommend it highly enough.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by subjectsigma on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @09:11PM
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Exactly. You can tell how badly the author wants this demographic of people not just to exist, but be some credible existential threat, the evil white man-child alt-righter set out to destroy everyone else.
Of course people like this exist - they are by no means representative and they haven't ruined the world yet ...
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by alexandercrohde on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @08:51AM
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Started out interesting, got out-of-hand pretty quickly.
I've been noticing lately how politically-motivated clubs constantly need to incense their base by exaggerating the problems of the era. This is true right or left. Be it "war on Christmas" or "polluting black punisher pickup-trucks of death" (i.e. this cartoon). I see it in newspapers, youtube videos, podcasts (even more balanced ones like Joe Rogan).
Of course, really in the end you can't put the blame on the pedagog. People opt-in to following angry blow-hards for a surrogate sense of purpose in their otherwise dull lives.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by ericmcer on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:37AM
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The cartoon does get pretty silly, but there is a real danger to a large segment of the population having dull, lonely lives. They are full of discontent and ready to be lead.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by lsh on Monday February 25, 2019 @11:54PM
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urgh - so simplistic and completely without nuance, just merrily spinning it's own logic and coming to weird ultimate conclusions. This stuff is seductive because of it's format, but conspiracy theories also layer the logic on slowly until it's so thick you don't know where to begin to pick it apart.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by 86carr on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @09:23AM
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I agree that it's conspiratorial but I do like the attempt to analyze this shift in a sub-section of men's fashion. So many men are "operators" operating operations nowadays. I get the attraction to the aesthetic but it just seems so out of context in every day life.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by Junk_Collector on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:07AM
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This isn't a new phenomena in that it's really no different than say, the dime store cowboy or the popular 90's thug look. It crops up whenever people are bored and or disaffected and want to feel "tougher."
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by lsh on Saturday March 02, 2019 @07:18PM
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That's an interesting point. I read the Preacher comics waay back in the day (also 90s, I think) and after I finished them it really did seem to play up Jessie as the tough cowboy-thug-alternative-grunge-priest thing. I enjoyed reading them in the moment but was ambivalent immediately afterwards.
I was impressed with the illustration in OP but it was paired with this emotionally unsophisticated/immature narrative that was just so jarring. There are one-man bands that are similar, where the vocals or music may be top notch, but the rest is cringeworthy.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by Para2016 on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @08:12AM
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That was a giant logical leep pretty early in, I had to stop reading. He says his father was in the military which allows him to claim some kind of inherited expertise. That's not how it works. Making sweeping generalizations about uniform of the day when he isn't even familiar with that term is absurd. Tangential pathologic mental processes are going on here.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by grayed-down on Monday February 25, 2019 @11:45PM
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I really enjoyed reading this piece right up until he labeled Steve Bannon a fascist. Because this comment is so wildly nonsensical, I lost interest in the rest of the piece and hit the back button.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by shijie on Monday February 25, 2019 @11:48PM
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Exactly this. The whole conclusion is a beautifully illustrated strawman.
I’ll fight Fascism in any way I can, and I’ll stand on any side of the aisle and denounce racial supremacy in any way shape or form, but holy cow did this web comic jump to some pretty zany conclusions at the end.
Re:About Face: Death and surrender to power in the clothing ...
by burfog on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @04:28AM
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Well, to start, almost anything but fascist. I think being non-globalist is literally the only thing in common. About the only description more incorrect would be to call him a communist.
Bannon sure doesn't sound at all like Mussolini describing fascism. Think about who in the modern world comes closest to agreeing with what Mussolini says:
“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
“I declare that henceforth capital and labor shall have equal rights and duties as brothers in the fascist family.”
“God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease.”
It's definitely not Steve Bannon or anybody associated with him.
Of course people like this exist - they are by no means representative and they haven't ruined the world yet ...
I've been noticing lately how politically-motivated clubs constantly need to incense their base by exaggerating the problems of the era. This is true right or left. Be it "war on Christmas" or "polluting black punisher pickup-trucks of death" (i.e. this cartoon). I see it in newspapers, youtube videos, podcasts (even more balanced ones like Joe Rogan).
Of course, really in the end you can't put the blame on the pedagog. People opt-in to following angry blow-hards for a surrogate sense of purpose in their otherwise dull lives.
I was impressed with the illustration in OP but it was paired with this emotionally unsophisticated/immature narrative that was just so jarring. There are one-man bands that are similar, where the vocals or music may be top notch, but the rest is cringeworthy.
I’ll fight Fascism in any way I can, and I’ll stand on any side of the aisle and denounce racial supremacy in any way shape or form, but holy cow did this web comic jump to some pretty zany conclusions at the end.
Bannon sure doesn't sound at all like Mussolini describing fascism. Think about who in the modern world comes closest to agreeing with what Mussolini says:
“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
“I declare that henceforth capital and labor shall have equal rights and duties as brothers in the fascist family.”
“God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease.”
It's definitely not Steve Bannon or anybody associated with him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Regiment_(United_S...
Oh, and the illustration of the poor peds being mowed down by the big truck - Bravo!
Long, slow, sardonic clap follows...
Funny how a complaint against dehumanization resorts to dehumanization.