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Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by detaro on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:26PM (#19250887)
The legal point isn't if what he tweeted was "that bad" or not. It's that after he got caught the last time, in the settlement to end the case he agreed to have Tesla legal review all such tweets in the future to make sure he doesn't do it again. He broke that agreement.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by voodooranger on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:40PM (#19250999)
i believe elon’s argument is that the offending tweet didn’t need approval because he believed that he was just restating a projection made on the previous earnings call
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by afastow on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:02PM (#19251134)
The SEC saw that argument coming and shot it down completely in their filing:

> According to Tesla’s Policy, any edits to a pre-approved Written Communication or even releasing a verbatim pre-approved Written Communication more than two days after it has been pre-approved requires that the pre-approval be reconfirmed. Even if the exact substance of the 7:15 tweet had been pre-approved 20 days before, Musk cannot credibly claim that he thought he was not required to obtain pre-approval again under the plain terms of the Policy. In fact, the written communication in the 7:15 tweet was not pre-approved 20 days earlier or at any time. Musk’s claim that he thought he was simply restating information from the January 30 communications is not credible.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5750664-Show-Cause.h... page 12

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by Dylan16807 on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:26PM (#19251253)
This tweet was not an edit to a pre-approved communication. That rule is irrelevant.

The argument is not "this tweet got approved before, so I can edit it however I want". The argument is "the number is already public information, so I can make a new post mentioning it".

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by sangnoir on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:44PM (#19251327)
> This tweet was not an edit to a pre-approved communication.

That is the problem, in a nutshell: it should have been pre-approved - according to the FCC's interpretation of the settlement agreement.

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by Dylan16807 on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:46PM (#19251339)
Maybe. But don't confuse different arguments about why. If the tweet needed pre-approval, it's for a reason entirely different from this quote.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by rory096 on Monday February 25, 2019 @09:54PM (#19251645)
Whether or not it's a valid argument, that does seem to be the SEC's argument here.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by Dylan16807 on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:00PM (#19251667)
It's not the core of their argument, though. It's probably thrown in just in case it could possibly be considered relevant.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by justin66 on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:58PM (#19251114)
In a contempt hearing centered around violation of the terms of the settlement with the SEC, that's probably not a great argument. It's an error Musk would not have made if he'd simply adhered to the agreement and had a lawyer review what he tweeted.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by cmurf on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:43PM (#19251026)
What he believes doesn't matter, it's what he agreed to that matters, and he violated that agreement.
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Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by Derek_MK on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:41PM (#19251313)
You can use this argument for literally anything, it means nothing.

> Apparently we live in a country where the government can murder thousands upon thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, deny that it ever happened, and profit off of the destruction.

> But god help you if you brutally beat someone to death

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by empath75 on Monday February 25, 2019 @09:37PM (#19251552)
To be honest one of the reasons that government malfeasance of the kind that got us into Iraq is so dangerous is that it promotes exactly this kind of cynicism.

We’ll be hearing exactly this kind of argument for decades because of the shit trump is getting away with now, and he’s arguing he should get away with it because of the shit Clinton and Bush got away with.

It’s off topic, but a culture of law breaking at the top promotes law breaking at all levels of society.

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by jacques_chester on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:06PM (#19251152)
The justice system is not single-threaded. It can deal with more than one case at a time.
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by missedthecue on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:08PM (#19251155)
The government profited? I always hear that it cost 6 trillion or something
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by krferriter on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:55PM (#19251376)
government officials and connected firms profited, taxpayers lost out
Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by cmurf on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:08PM (#19251158)
If the government does one thing unethical, immoral, or in violation of international law, and that must necessarily result in all contracts being nullified as preposterous in comparison, then it's chaos.

What you're describing is an eventual consequence of metastasizing corruption. Wealth does not trickle down, but corruption does.

Re:SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Con... by leesec on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:57PM (#19251868)
Yes but in this case he'd already said this publicly. Does Elon need to review tweets about things hes already publicly said?