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Re:Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018) by sametmax on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:58AM (#19245268)
> unfriendly hardware vendors

You mean people with economical pressure to be profitable ?

As a Linux user, I know I represent a fraction of the market. I'm grateful when people invest in us, because I know it's a great move in principle, but it's not always one money-wise.

Building hardware is HARD. Selling is HARD.

Being dismissive to the people not being able to provide linux support is not going to win them to our cause.

Re:Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018) by michaelmrose on Monday February 25, 2019 @02:36PM (#19248647)
Unfriendly is assholes who ship hardware that neither follows standards nor bothers to ship with documentation. I'm not dismissing them nor will we win them over to any side because they aren't even part of the conversation they only converse with oems buying millions of units.
Re:Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018) by rbanffy on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:39PM (#19248116)
> You mean people with economical pressure to be profitable ?

Selling more hardware is usually good for a hardware manufacturer. So is having fewer people returning their equipment because it doesn't work.

> not being able to provide linux support

Most kernel developers would be ecstatic just with proper documentation of the hardware being sold.

Re:Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018) by sametmax on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:49PM (#19248219)
> Selling more hardware is usually good for a hardware manufacturer. So is having fewer people returning their equipment because it doesn't work.

It all depends of the ROI. In hardware the economy at scale is at play, and it doesn't go well with niches.

> Most kernel developers would be ecstatic just with proper documentation of the hardware being sold.

I agree. That's mostly a matter of culture. Many companies won't publish docs, because they are either afraid of competition, pirating, or looking stupid.