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Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by fouc on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:58AM (#19239327)
I'd be interested in hearing about it applied to totally different industries, particularly software.
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by hoorayimhelping on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:26PM (#19239474)
John Allspaw applied concepts from The Field Guide to Understanding Human Error to software post mortems. When I was at Etsy, he taught a class explaining this whole concept. We read the book and discussed concepts like the Fundamental Attribution Error.

I've found it very beneficial, and the concepts we learned have helped me inn almost every aspect of understanding the complicated world we live in. I've taken these concepts to two other companies now to great effect.

https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Understanding-Human-Error...

https://codeascraft.com/2012/05/22/blameless-postmortems/

https://codeascraft.com/2016/11/17/debriefing-facilitation-g...

https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/velocity-conference-201...

Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by rytor718 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:01PM (#19239985)
So much fantastic reading I hadn't seen before in this discussion. Mucho thanks to all for sharing!
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by _greim_ on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:20PM (#19239434)
Incidentally, Amazon does this. Particularly, they've adopted into the culture the concept of "good intentions don't work, mechanisms do." A decent summary can be found at this link:

http://nickfoy.com/blog/2018/4/7/good-intentions-dont-work

For example, if an admin bungles a copy/paste shell command and it causes an outage, instead of punishing the admin for not wanting hard enough to do it correctly, they'll change the process so it doesn't rely on admins copy/pasting shell commands.

Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by jmkni on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:21PM (#19239445)
That's awesome. I'm guessing it's limited to software Amazon themselves develops and doesn't extend to software deployed to AWS?
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by sokoloff on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:34PM (#19239518)
How could it? AWS will happily run whatever code you want, using whatever good or bad development practices you care to choose.
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by jmkni on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:37PM (#19239539)
Fair. More just wondering if that have any sort of process for investigating data breaches involving software hosted on their servers.
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by jen20 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @08:49PM (#19242105)
Look at the “shared responsibility model” - if someone got in through the host then I guess they’d investigate. If you leak your SSH private key it’s on you.
Re:Amazon cargo plane crashes in Texas by sk5t on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:20PM (#19241000)
It’s not their software to investigate.