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Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by reitzensteinm on Friday November 19, 2010 @04:56AM (#1920979)
I dont know who downvoted you, but as an Opera user that uses Firefox to check Gmail, I'm waiting for the same thing myself!
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by Tomek_ on Friday November 19, 2010 @05:17AM (#1921008)
Huh? I don't have any problems with Gmail under Opera. As for the "who downvoted" I guess it was someone who thinks that it's Google that should be blamed for most of "the problems" with Google's services under Opera. It's a browser that's very standard compliant and yet they don't even let you do such silly thing as changing background image on Google's front page (and of course it works fine if only you mask Opera as Firefox).
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by Arve on Friday November 19, 2010 @07:39AM (#1921243)
GMail failed in a number of the Opera 11 alpha builds and snapshots because our native implementation of Function.prototype.bind was broken. This was recently fixed.
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by xytop on Friday November 19, 2010 @05:49AM (#1921053)
Let me disagree here. Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. Some functions are working incorrectly, some just not working, some events firing, some not. Right click is disabled too.. I'm not against Opera, but we should think about stuffs above. Regarding Google - google making their money from adverts, from people who using google. Do you really think that google could deliberately disable Opera support due to some internal polytics and renounce from money of many opera users? I think there were good reasons such as bad js support, because javascript is widely used by google in their services.
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by hoppipolla on Friday November 19, 2010 @07:07AM (#1921181)
(disclaimer: Opera Employee, Core QA)

If you are having problems with javascript in Opera, I would really like to hear about them so that they can be fixed. There is a bug report form at [1], or reply here. Obviously it is nice if you have a reduced testcase, but just knowing that a site fails is immensely useful.

[1] https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by xytop on Friday November 19, 2010 @10:08AM (#1921571)
http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_...

http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985

Aggressive opera caching and different behavior from others browsers is not what I like.

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by hoppipolla on Saturday November 20, 2010 @08:30AM (#1924447)
http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985

This is a known issue. No promises, but it looks like a fix might be ready sooner rather than later.

http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_...

It's not instantly obvious to me what the problem is here, so I will need to investigate further.

Thanks for the bug reports!

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by bruceboughton on Friday November 19, 2010 @10:54AM (#1921702)
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by lars on Friday November 19, 2010 @06:33AM (#1921130)
> Do you really think that google could deliberately disable Opera support due to some internal polytics and renounce from money of many opera users?

Yes. Google Docs officially does not support Opera. Not Gmail either. This was a policy change that happened some time ago.

Sources: http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe...

In my experience, both of these always work in Opera though, if you actually try.

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by sgift on Friday November 19, 2010 @06:05AM (#1921073)
Your argumentation ignores that Google had to invest money to test for another browser, which may be more than the money they can make on adverts to Opera users. This has nothing to do with any supposed problems in Operas js handling (which I've never noted ... for me the js works just fine in Opera and disallowing js to handle the right mouse button is a great feature), but is a simple cost-benefit analysis.
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by andrewl-hn on Friday November 19, 2010 @06:30AM (#1921122)
Google preemptively tries to kick Opera out of the browser world. Many new services come up with dedicated code to block Opera claiming that this browser can't handle them. I can't tell you how many times I changed Opera's UA string to Firefox and those services start working. Magic! <sarcasm

Not testing for a particular browser is fine (and truth be told Opera just works in 99.99% of the time). Blocking it just because one can is pure evil!

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by Shorel on Friday November 19, 2010 @10:23AM (#1921610)
Of course, Opera is the only browser that has challenged Chrome claims of the faster browser ever (in production builds, that's it).

> Blocking it just because one can is pure evil!

It means they value market share over standards. Very evil indeed.

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by famrey on Friday November 19, 2010 @12:39PM (#1922033)
> Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript.

I would have to disagree. Some people keep claiming that, but they can never seem to provide any evidence that Opera has more problems than other browsers.

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by e_h on Friday November 19, 2010 @07:39AM (#1921247)
> Right click is disabled too

It works in zimbra.

Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by balakk on Friday November 19, 2010 @05:45AM (#1921046)
The last two builds broke gmail for me. However, the latest one works.
Re:Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha) by Daverk on Sunday November 21, 2010 @02:12PM (#1927628)
Could it be possible to have emails time tag to be correct?