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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by reaperducer on Friday February 15, 2019 @12:01PM (#19172515)
The last thing the Internet needs is even more dependence upon Google

Watching Big G's actions over the last few years, I've sometimes wondered if it's laying the groundwork to fork the internet.

People talk about China and Russia's actions balkanizing the internet. But I have a sense that Google could do it, as well, and bring us back to the days when people didn't know the difference between the real internet and America Online.

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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by linuxftw on Friday February 15, 2019 @12:06PM (#19172574)
We're already there. Younger generation knows little about the web, but they all participate in the walled-garden-net via their app store.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by darpa_escapee on Friday February 15, 2019 @12:11PM (#19172621)
Yep. In many places in the world, the internet is Facebook/WhatsApp/YouTube and whatever portal each of your apps allows you to peer into.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by ryandrake on Friday February 15, 2019 @01:06PM (#19173149)
This is no different than the late 90s, when the Internet was AOL for a huge number of people. In 20 years it'll surely be some other platform, too, as long as the relatively open "Internet" foundation persists.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by anfilt on Friday February 15, 2019 @11:41PM (#19177105)
The concern is those foundations though since google obviously has influence when it comes to it.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by linuxftw on Sunday February 17, 2019 @11:16AM (#19185135)
I think there is an important distinction. Back then, it was all on the PC, which had several hard-fought battles to keep that platform open. Today's main-stream computing platforms (other than PC) are not as open. Replacing the operating system can be impossible. Installing applications outside the designated channels can be impossible.

Smartphone manufacturers can and do have absolute control over the software you run on your device. That was not true in the 90s.

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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by paulio on Friday February 15, 2019 @01:06PM (#19173150)
If by "....in many places...." you mean the majority, then I agree.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by rsync on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:24PM (#19174391)
"Watching Big G's actions over the last few years, I've sometimes wondered if it's laying the groundwork to fork the internet."

Wonder no more as that is the end goal.

Nothing less than becoming the new Ma Bell can be considered success.

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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 15, 2019 @07:19PM (#19176045)
> Wonder no more as that is the end goal.

We don't know this.

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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by ionised on Monday February 18, 2019 @06:40AM (#19190032)
Not for sure no, but the signs are all there.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by m463 on Friday February 15, 2019 @11:32PM (#19177085)
Trying to use the california department of motor vehicles website logs you into google. This is not analytics. You also cannot make an appointment with google services blocked (you get "server unavailable")
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by JohnFen on Friday February 15, 2019 @02:01PM (#19173679)
> I've sometimes wondered if it's laying the groundwork to fork the internet.

Would that mean that my internet would no longer have Googly stuff on it? I could get behind that.

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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by DCoder on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:29PM (#19174426)
It could also mean your internet not having some other sites which chose to side with Google.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by JohnFen on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:39PM (#19174501)
True, but I'm fine with that.
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by taneq on Friday February 15, 2019 @07:36PM (#19176139)
Is this not what AMP is for?
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Re:My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answeri... by Tsubasachan on Friday February 15, 2019 @02:57PM (#19174177)
Just see how many websites use Google analytics.
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