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Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by tomca32 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @04:44PM (#19166345)
Not sure about some of the numbers there. They say that a 3 month supply is $3700.

Humalog without insurance costs $95 per 3 ml cartridge, let's say it's a $100. This would mean that this child needs 37 cartridges for 3 months, or 12 cartridges per month, 3 per week.

That's a pretty crazy amount of insulin. I'm a T1 diabetic, that doesn't eat particularly healthy, and I need 2-3 cartridges a month, almost an order of magnitude less than the person in the article.

I don't think those numbers are right.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by syn0byte on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:00PM (#19166487)
They say her 3 month supply was $3700. Branding and "format" will affect the numbers. Pen? Vile? Pump? Humalog? Novalog? did the somewhat vague "3 month supply" include both short and long acting versions in the price tag?

I don't doubt the numbers, but I do detect some omission/simplification to make it seem extra stark.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by rfinney on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:15PM (#19166595)
Key phrase from the article is "modern generation of insulin". A good overview of the design and effects of the new insulins are here : https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/dme.13692 ( "Lessons for modern insulin development" ).
Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by tomca32 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:21PM (#19166642)
Still even with prices of modern insulins I'm not sure it makes much sense.

Fiasp is an example of one of the most modern ones and still I can't find a price higher than $125 per 3ml: https://www.goodrx.com/fiasp?dosage=3ml-of-100-units-ml&form...

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by sithlord on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:23PM (#19166659)
rotated between novolog and humalog 10/ml vials quite a bit (insulin pump - don't use long acting) and they are priced identically.
Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by acdha on Thursday February 14, 2019 @04:55PM (#19166450)
> Humalog without insurance costs $95 per 3 ml cartridge, let's say it's a $100.

You have a citation that it’s available from every provider in the country at that price? The person quoted specifically said they’d been quoted that much and I would assume that people aren’t making up reasons to go on 5 hour drives.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by tomca32 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:13PM (#19166578)
I don't. I have this link that lists a bunch of providers and their prices and I don't see anyone going over $100 per 3ml cartridge: https://www.goodrx.com/humalog?dosage=3ml-of-100-units-ml&fo...

Of course, there might be a more expensive provider that I don't know of.

I don't think that those people are making up reasons to go on 5 hour drives, but I do think it's quite likely that journalists fudged the numbers or just found some theoretical maximums and approximated the price from there. Just so it's a juicier story, of course.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by acdha on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:16PM (#19166603)
It’s a direct statement from one person, not approximation. Either the journalist or the source has to be wrong for it to be incorrect. It’s possible but I’m assuming this is yet another example of the exhaustively documented broken economic model in American healthcare producing wide varaiation as everyone charges whatever they can get away with.
Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by sithlord on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:21PM (#19166636)
i have had several insurances and switched between sometimes having to pay upfront cost, for a 10/ml vial it is around 230. I know, for example, I need around 9 vials per 3 months. pretty expensive stuff.

*edit, as I am on an insulin pump I only take fast-acting insulins. Lantus/Levemir other longer acting insulins usually are more expensive than the fast-acting stuff.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by RHSeeger on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:34PM (#19166727)
Basing things on previous numbers for myself (my insulin has changed since then because the insurance gets to override my doctor and experience).

Assuming

- 50 units of Lantus per day -> 4.5 vials per 3 months @ 300/vial = 1,350 USD/month

- 80 units of Apidra per day -> 7.2 vials per 3 months @ 300/vial = 2,160 USD/month

total = 3,510 USD/month

Now, to be fair, I'm older and have more insulin resistance than a younger diabetic would. Either way, the numbers without insurance add up real quick.

Re:Americans Cross Border into Mexico to Buy Insulin by joeconway on Thursday February 14, 2019 @06:29PM (#19167097)
I think your numbers here are either out of date or not consistent for some reason. I got a batch of Humalog yesterday which claims 'retail price $1416.59' for 10 100 unit pens.