Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by elpakal on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @12:44PM
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Guns, Germs and Steel by Diamond. Also Foundation Trilogy by Asimov because of the incredible creativity needed to tell that story
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Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by wooly_bully on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @12:55PM
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Strongly disagree. The geographic determinism theory of GG&S is frustrating and ignores significant factors in the rise of the West.
This review is something I generally send out to people after they've read GG&S, and strongly recommend Eric Wolf as an author. He puts many of the points I would make significantly more eloquently:
https://www.livinganthropologically.com/eric-wolf-europe-peo...
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by LyndsySimon on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @01:05PM
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I would argue that “changing the way you think” doesn’t require the book to be factually accurate. The idea that external factors like geographical starting conditions can have a huge impact and shape things as complex as human culture is a powerful one, regardless of the conclusions drawn in the book.
If anything, the way it has been challenged and shown to be flawed is a lesson on and of itself - that complex systems have emergent properties, and that those starting conditions are not as deterministic as it might appear at first blush.
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by wooly_bully on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @01:25PM
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Good point.
If GG&S changed the way you think, I'd highly recommend following it up with either the book from that review (Eric Wolf's "Europe and the People without History") or Ian Morris's "Why The West Rules, For Now".
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by elpakal on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @03:06PM
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Yes, not meant to be accurate. Just changed my perception and continues to linger.
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by aaaaaatttuyy on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @01:43AM
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Guns, Germs and Steel is an absolute garbage book. It's pseudoscience, plain and simple. It's teaching unacceptable ways to think about culture, by any anthropologist's standards.
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by btkramer9 on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @12:48PM
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I can second Guns, Germs and Steel. I'm continually evaluating how much things are a result of my own work vs just a byproduct of the environment I'm in.
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by anderspitman on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @12:49PM
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I've had a copy of this from a book sale sitting on my shelf for over a year. I'll have to get to it.
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by fouc on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @03:02PM
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recent HN thread discussed how flawed guns, Germs and Steel is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19034468
Re:Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost...
by chx on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @02:48PM
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Diamond is bunk science, however. We discussed this not a week ago. Some https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19045376 here , more on r/askhistorians