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Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wlesieutre on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:58AM (#19077957)
And a lot of things that are "animated gifs" really aren't animated gifs anymore, they're using audioless video players. So if you stopped autoplay, everything from gfycat, imgur, and similar would stop playing.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by jononor on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:13PM (#19078170)
... until clicking the play button.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by codetrotter on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:36PM (#19080382)
And when people browse Reddit, do you think they want to individually press play an extra time on each and every video that they look at? Of course they don’t!

So everyone ITT saying that “nobody wants automatically playing videos”. Actually yeah, we do, and there are many, and I mean MANY of us.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by marcosdumay on Monday February 04, 2019 @04:34PM (#19080863)
Well, I'm the only person I know personally that spends time browsing reddit on his phones (because on a PC videos do not autoplay), and I've installed a different client mostly because it won't autoplay anything.

But I do have a lot of friends that spend time browsing facebook, and not a single one likes autoplaying videos, either wanted or unwanted ones.

Videos do not get into your screen at the same exact time you focus your attention on them. On the occasion that you'll want to watch the video, autoplaying just forces you to see a lot of out of context spoilers and video endings.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by jononor on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:40PM (#19080403)
Whitelist Reddit then. Or turn on autoplay for all websites.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by bllguo on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:51PM (#19080507)
Or maybe we can take the current approach and leave a sensible default for the people who aren't savvy enough? And people like you and I can just toggle the option?
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by robryan on Monday February 04, 2019 @04:07PM (#19080646)
Do the majority really want autoplay? Facebook forced it on people and made it hard to find the disable option.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wlesieutre on Monday February 04, 2019 @04:18PM (#19080731)
On pages that I go to specifically to play a media file, yes. Maybe a reasonable middle ground would be that each page can auto-play a single video element?

There are probably uses that I'm not thinking of (or don't partake in) where this would still be a problem for people.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by m-p-3 on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:51PM (#19079370)
or if it allows to whitelist those domains.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by 21 on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:59PM (#19078762)
Or until the user switches to alternate browser like I will if Firefox doesn't autoplay soundless animations.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by dgzl on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:28PM (#19079096)
It would take a lot more than that for me to switch from Firefox.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by aaaaaaaaaaab on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:10PM (#19079584)
ok bye
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by dang on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @10:46AM (#19086334)
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments so we don't have to ban you again? Your substantive posts are just fine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by swebs on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:57PM (#19078732)
That sounds amazing. The only thing worse that autoplaying videos is 30 of them autoplaying at the same time. Let users opt-in to autoplay rather than opt-out.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wlesieutre on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:06PM (#19078819)
10% of users will be thrilled and the rest will switch back to Chrome where the internet still works how they expect it to.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by hiccuphippo on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:18PM (#19078973)
What was the reason that made the hypothetical 90% go for Firefox in the first place? This seems like the kind of feature one would expect when installing Firefox.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wlesieutre on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:00PM (#19079470)
Mobile addons, privacy respecting defaults, not wanting you to be logged into a Google account all the time?

I don't think "makes imgur gifs stop playing" is going to attract more users than it drives away. By all means have that as an option, but it'd be a terrible default experience.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by plopz on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:42PM (#19079891)
Mozilla demonstrated they don't care about retaining old users when they broke all the extensions in 57.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wlesieutre on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:26PM (#19080278)
If you made videos stop playing, users could switch to Chrome as a fix when their gifs stopped playing.

Firefox 57 changed to using a more limited extension system like Chrome already had, so it's not like users could jump ship to Chrome to get back Firefox 56's more powerful extensions.

You may not have liked or agreed with that change, but I don't think it actually drove people to alternative browsers. If anything they might have said "Well, I have to going extension browsing anyway to find new ones that work, maybe I'll take a look at the options in Chrome too."

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by godshatter on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @12:00PM (#19087140)
If I hadn't already been running Pale Moon on Windows, it would have made me switch to it.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by ndnxhs on Monday February 04, 2019 @06:54PM (#19081860)
And now a short time later they basically all work again but its better than ever and less work to maintain your extension.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by tracker1 on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:48PM (#19080466)
No kidding... I generally hit a few aggregation sites and open a dozen or so new tabs in the morning. Nothing is more annoying than finding the one playing audio... or worse when you get to the tab which had auto-play video (muted) and had already passed the video in the link I'd even been interested in and onto something unrelated.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by mancerayder on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:13PM (#19078900)
They would stop playing? Sounds like a feature, not a bug!
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by mulmen on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:51PM (#19078654)
Sure but I prefer the Internet to look less like Imgur and gyfcat so that would be a feature.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by Franciscouzo on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:38PM (#19079209)
And you will be able by installing an addon, accept that you're a minority and most people want autoplay on their GIFs.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by rhizome on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:03PM (#19079499)
accept that you're a minority

This seems like an assertion in advance of evidence.

To be sure, the entire internet-using public does not get a vote on the issue, aside from browser configurations and plugins (which the people who deny us a vote pay PR agencies to hate). Just like in other instances of disenfranchisement, those who aren't allowed to vote are indeed considered to be "minorities," even if only in the amount of political power they wield.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by CodeMage on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:30PM (#19079786)
Thank you for helping me realize what's been bothering me about software for the last decade or so. I've been experiencing an increasing apathy and dissatisfaction and I kept attributing it to "age" -- 40 is not that much, true, but I had no better hypothesis until now.

Basically, what bothers me is that most of software being developed nowadays treats users like shit and the excuse is always along the same lines: "We ensure that we do what users want, by measuring their response, and if they didn't like it they would use something else".

Turns out, you can't go anywhere else if everything is corrupted through same perverse incentives and you don't have the power to change it yourself. Back when most users were more computer-savvy, the users had more power. Obviously, we can't go back to computers being mostly a hobby for geeks, but there has to be some kind of a solution to put more power in users' hands. I just can't think of one.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by Jach on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:16PM (#19080182)
You have to fight universalism in all its forms. Whether you agree with the default behavior or not, if people feel strongly about another option then let them have it by changing a config setting. Resist the "it must be this way and no other" crowd. Even if the config is as user-unfriendly as about:config, it's there. If you find it impossible to convince management that the slight increase in maintenance is worth the flexibility of both the software and end user usage, expose it anyway for "testing purposes".
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by aabbcc1241 on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:25PM (#19080260)
Maybe education ?
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by mulmen on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:41PM (#19079259)
Don’t tell me what to do.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by DanBC on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:18PM (#19078971)
> everything from gfycat, imgur, and similar would stop playing.

Yes, this would be what I want.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by SilasX on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:38PM (#19079208)
Agreed, but when I (pre-66) disabled animations, I didn't see an obvious UX element for "no, go ahead, this one's cool".

Edit: Actually, it seemed to be hit-or-miss. Some gifs work, some refuse to play at all.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by wehere1111 on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:08PM (#19078837)
you're just repeating the previous comment