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Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by king_magic on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:56AM (#19077931)
I’ve never once found autoplay video to enhance a web experience. I’ve never once found a single example to be “interesting”. I don’t care if audio is muted. I don’t want it, full stop.

It’s atrocious UX. It’s hostile to users. It’s presumptive and frankly rude. There’s no excuse for autoplay. Even on YouTube, it’s more often infuriating than not.

Edit: clarified “autoplay video”, not animated GIFs

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by nitrogen on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:01PM (#19077998)
I've seen some very subtle moving backgrounds that were quite appropriate for the sites they were on.

It's probably too difficult for software to tell the difference between something like a high brow long form interactive article, a tasteful hero banner background, and an annoying popover or sidebar ad.

My least favorite auto-playing videos in a site I use regularly are in the Netflix UI.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by munk-a on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:17PM (#19078946)
Yea, even on sites that specifically cater to serving video (like YouTube) I prefer non-autoplay video, it's an extra click - who cares... it will save me the occasional wall of sound when re-opening a browser with way too many random things open.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by tzs on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:03PM (#19079502)
People apparently can get very annoyed by an extra click between them and content that they have already indicated they want to see.

Look at the number of complaints people post about EU cookie warning banners, which usually don't even block you from consuming the content on the page, even though they usually can be dismissed in one click. Or the number of complaints if a site puts a sign-up or logic request, dismissable in one click, that obscures any of the content.

Sure, with an extra click to play video, as opposed to an extra click to read an article, it will save annoyance on sites where the person is not there specifically because they clicked a link to see the video.

There are probably more sites where the auto-playing video is an annoyance than where it is the thing you came to the site for, and so blocking auto play is probably a net win for most people--but will they perceive it that way?

You are more likely to notice that something has annoyed you than to notice that something has not annoyed you. With blocking auto play I think a lot of people will only notice it, therefore, when it makes them do an extra click to see something they came to see. They aren't going to notice that it saved them from having to click to mute or pause some ancillary video on a page.

That doesn't mean it should not be added. It just means some care should be taken into how it is presented and configured.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by shawnz on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:09PM (#19079565)
> There are probably more sites where the auto-playing video is an annoyance than where it is the thing you came to the site for, and so blocking auto play is probably a net win for most people--but will they perceive it that way?

I don't know about that. I would think YouTube alone easily accounts for the majority of autoplaying videos that users encounter.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by Faark on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:23PM (#19080242)
> the occasional wall of sound when re-opening a browser with way too many random things open

Firefox only restores tabs (and thus resumes playing) once I actually select them. This sounds like a better solution for your specific problem. A drawback is it being easier to end with a significant tab graveyard. But won't be able to have it any other way once you're at four-digits open tabs...

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by tfha on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:11PM (#19079595)
I care. When I'm scrolling through dozens or hundreds of videos in a stream an extra click per video is a big ux problem.

Wall of sound I agree with. Disable that. But don't force me to click a video or gif to get it to play.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by falcolas on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:02PM (#19078024)
Reddit, Giphy, Imgur, Youtube.

Those would be the big four which would negatively impact my daily web usage.

Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by bunderbunder on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:10PM (#19078133)
Giving other people a to default disable a thing does not force you to do it, too. Giving different people options about how they want to experience the Web would be the entire point.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by falcolas on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:17PM (#19078219)
The media.autoplay flags in about:config provide that option for anyone who wants it (and even more granular controls than those being exposed in the UI here).
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by munk-a on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:18PM (#19078974)
Some big browsers need to disable auto-play by default to force websites to actually support commencing and pausing video in terrible tiny javascript video players.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by hendersoon on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:59PM (#19078755)
They don't work. I have all of those flags enabled and sites like CNN still autoplay videos. With sound, too, as a matter of fact.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by ubercow13 on Monday February 04, 2019 @09:18PM (#19082583)
If it's already not possible to implement perfectly, what is being argued for in this thread exactly?
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by webmobdev on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:53PM (#19078668)
How would it negatively impact you to click / tap on a video to play it?
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by dharmab on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:16PM (#19078933)
Look at GoPro's website. They sell video cameras, and their landing page has a muted video showing video taken with their cameras.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by driverdan on Monday February 04, 2019 @06:32PM (#19081745)
Why does it need to autoplay? If I want to watch it I'll click play.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by javagram on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:01PM (#19077997)
Animated gifs (which are being replaced with gifv autoplay movies) are great IMO. I think the majority of web users don’t mind them.
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by Lewton on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:36PM (#19079186)
“Animated gifs” are dead (ish), most likely whenever you see something that you think is a gif, it’s an auto playing video
Re:Firefox 66 to block automatically playing audible video a... by tfha on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:09PM (#19079567)
sex.com

If autoplay videos and gifs were disabled the whole value of that site would disappear. I wish 4chan and Reddit would do it as well. It's great for feed content.

There are plenty of other examples of auto-playing videos being a good thing. Please don't take those away.