TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond

Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by kowdermeister on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:09AM (#19076890)

> the web could get any more terrible than it is today

Please cry a river how bad it is. As someone actively developing since about 2006 I think it's never been in a better shape.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by coding123 on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:31AM (#19077078)

Please respond to the actual concern, you cut out the entirely relevant part of his comment. Are you just trying to say you love React, Node, Java - cause that's what it sounds like you're saying which has nothing to do with his concern over ML to enhance tracking, etc.. If you think the tracking, etc.. has been getting better since 2006, then it clearly means you're advocating it.

That or you just didn't read the full comment?

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by kowdermeister on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:56PM (#19080548)

It was not really relevant. It could be anything that's new, webassembly for example, or some new WebGL framework...

> Are you just trying to say you love React, Node, Java...

No stack I advocate in particular. I'm trying to say that the web is a wonderful platform and I hope it will stay for a very-very long time.

For the client side ML libraries, I don't think it makes sense to use it for tracking. You can already extract information with a high accuracy.

Tracking is a natural consequence of money flowing into the industry and tracking can be achieved with high accuracy. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but at least we can do something about it.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by onion2k on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:25AM (#19077592)

If you think the tracking, etc.. has been getting better since 2006, then it clearly means you're advocating it.

Tracking is far better now than it was in 2006, and I say that as someone who is hugely against tracking. We have the Do Not Track header, which a lot of companies actually pay attention to, we have much better privacy plugins and ad-blockers (privacy badger, u-block origin, pi-hole, etc), and we have a growing consensus that tracking isn't actually that effective which seems to be pushing some companies to try alternative models in their advertising revenue, and their ad spend on the other side.

Things are better.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by DevKoala on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:04PM (#19080095)

This is not true, tracking is more prevalent than ever. Legislation and public backlash have forced service providers to ask before they track. However, advancements in ML and commoditization of big data engineering solutions have made it easier than ever for more events to be tracked and more accurate profiling to be possible.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by newaccoutnas on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:10PM (#19078865)

For the average user, against the larger players in the market?

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by na85 on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:32PM (#19078422)

That's the problem, though: The web has steadily been growing more convenient/friendly for developers, while steadily growing more hostile for users.

All these javascript "advances" just make it easier for people to e.g. mine monero on my system without my consent and enable mediocre web developers to load up previously quick-loading sites with custom scrolling animations, autoplay video, and malvertising.

I'm sure it's in better shape for you, a web developer. It's objectively worse for me, a user.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by wuliwong on Thursday February 07, 2019 @11:29AM (#19106222)

These advances also make it possible to have the user experiences of sites like spotify, netflix, soundcloud, etc. There's a lot of bad stuff but there is also a lot of good.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by kmlx on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:23AM (#19076998)

totally agree. not only that, but we haven't even scratched the surface of what's possible yet.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by rhizome on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:11PM (#19079589)

The experience of using the web is much worse than it used to be.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by endofcapital on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:35AM (#19077110)

I first developed a web page in 1997. First got paid to do it in 1998. Innovated a lot of the DHTML/AJAX/SPA techniques before anyone else knew that was even possible, way before that first AJAX article was written.

Not sure how that's relevant, but yeah the web just gets worse and worse every year. Mostly due to the corporations of course, but the standards group are culpable too. I kind of want to write a book on the history of the W3C if nobody has already, it's such a horror show.

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by AriaMinaei on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:40AM (#19077159)

Can you ELI5 how standard groups have made the web worse?

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Re:TensorFlow.js: Machine Learning for the Web and Beyond by AtHeartEngineer on Monday February 04, 2019 @10:31AM (#19077073)

Agreed, there is more tooling and insight than ever before

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