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Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by j16sdiz on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:38AM (#19053326)
He is arguing against building the larger particle collider.

There are too little theory support of such collider can find anything new under the standard model.

IMO, it is not the matter of "science". This is economics.

Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by protonfish on Friday February 01, 2019 @11:24AM (#19055458)
Yes, there is the question of putting our research money where it could do the most good, but that doesn't mean that it also isn't thoughtful commentary of the difference between better and worse science. One would think that good science would not bother coming up with misleading excuses to spend money on an experiment where there is no strong reason to believe it could result in the discovery of anything important.
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by ssmmww on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:57AM (#19053404)
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Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by jandrese on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:30PM (#19056932)
Isn't the problem that the collider will be too big for Standard Model work, but not big enough to test the alternatives?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by bauerd on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:47AM (#19053357)
And economics isn't a science?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @07:17AM (#19053492)
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by s3m4j on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:48AM (#19053359)
Is it falsifiable ? Is it testable even ?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by throwawaymath on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:53AM (#19055071)
Theoretically, yes it is falsifiable. If you had sufficient data about a system you could perfectly forecast micro- and macroeconomic results.

Now, is it testable? Only in a very limited sense. You can suss out trends in a decently empirical way, but because you're working with independent agents you can't really get sufficient data to obtain rigorous results.

Economics is not unlike high energy physics in these respects. You can move the needle in legitimate ways, but there are very hard restrictions that make it more difficult to make rigorous observations.

Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by AndrewDucker on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:59AM (#19053418)
When people are proven wrong, does the conversation move forward, or do large swathes of people grip onto their beliefs anyway?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @07:17AM (#19053497)
That has nothing to do with whether or not something is a science.
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by TheOtherHobbes on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:13AM (#19054704)
It is when the people who don't move on are the people doing the "science."
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:41AM (#19054959)
No, even then it has nothing to do with whether or not the subject of debate is scientific.

Bad deontology on the part of an individual doesn't discredit the field as a whole.