Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by protonfish on Friday February 01, 2019 @11:24AM
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Yes, there is the question of putting our research money where it could do the most good, but that doesn't mean that it also isn't thoughtful commentary of the difference between better and worse science. One would think that good science would not bother coming up with misleading excuses to spend money on an experiment where there is no strong reason to believe it could result in the discovery of anything important.
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by ssmmww on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:57AM
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Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by jandrese on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:30PM
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Isn't the problem that the collider will be too big for Standard Model work, but not big enough to test the alternatives?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by bauerd on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:47AM
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And economics isn't a science?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @07:17AM
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Sort of but not really: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/economics/
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by s3m4j on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:48AM
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Is it falsifiable ? Is it testable even ?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by throwawaymath on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:53AM
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Theoretically, yes it is falsifiable. If you had sufficient data about a system you could perfectly forecast micro- and macroeconomic results.
Now, is it testable? Only in a very limited sense. You can suss out trends in a decently empirical way, but because you're working with independent agents you can't really get sufficient data to obtain rigorous results.
Economics is not unlike high energy physics in these respects. You can move the needle in legitimate ways, but there are very hard restrictions that make it more difficult to make rigorous observations.
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by AndrewDucker on Friday February 01, 2019 @06:59AM
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When people are proven wrong, does the conversation move forward, or do large swathes of people grip onto their beliefs anyway?
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @07:17AM
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That has nothing to do with whether or not something is a science.
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by TheOtherHobbes on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:13AM
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It is when the people who don't move on are the people doing the "science."
Re:Just because it’s falsifiable doesn’t mean it’s good science
by presscast on Friday February 01, 2019 @10:41AM
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No, even then it has nothing to do with whether or not the subject of debate is scientific.
Bad deontology on the part of an individual doesn't discredit the field as a whole.
There are too little theory support of such collider can find anything new under the standard model.
IMO, it is not the matter of "science". This is economics.