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Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by IronWolve on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:39PM (#19050180)
I do pay, just to alt-media companies that I respect more than the NY Times. MSM won't get my dime while they push political agendas instead and target the opposition.
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by aphextron on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:52PM (#19050259)
Do these alt-media companies have accredited journalists, held to objective professional and ethical standards laid out by journalist organizations? Do they cite credible sources and facts with every article?

Because that's what we're losing. The idea that JoeBlowKnowsTheTruth.com holds the same level of accountability, rigor, and seriousness as an actual news organization is what's gotten us into this mess.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by wyqydsyq on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:13PM (#19050429)
The idea that "news organisations" still have any journalistic integrity is an absolute joke. Most now amount to nothing more than opinion blogs and biased propaganda against political party X or Y.

The decline of integrity in mainstream media is actually what has gotten us into this mess. If the quality of mainstream news reporting did not decline so widely there would not be a vacuum for sites like JoeBlowKnowsTheTruth.com to draw an audience.

News organisations and their journalists are completely responsible for the scenario and trying to blame anyone else is just a scapegoat for their own bad work, the consequences (decline in readers/revenue, journalist layoffs) are theirs to face.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by adrianratnapala on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:11PM (#19050412)
> ..., held to objective professional and ethical standards laid out by journalist organizations?

In other words you are looking for journalists who are good at winning prizes from their peers. But this risks becoming a self-contained system where journalists are "reputable" because they parrot what other "reputable" journalists think.

If IronWolve pays for journalism from sites that strike him as being thorough and trustworthy, then IronWolve's own judgement is as (small) exogenous contribution to the system.

Of course it is also possible that IronWolve is a fool who pays for foolish journalism. But if so, then that's his problem.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by aphextron on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:14PM (#19050441)
>In other words you are looking for journalists who are good at winning prizes from their peers. But this risks becoming a self-contained system where journalists are "reputable" because, they parrot what other "reputable" journalists think.

I think you're missing the difference between journalism and editorialism. The latter has become our standard of "news" nowadays. A quick glance at the top alt-media sites shows literally nothing but unsourced, opinion driven fear mongering and click bait. It's not about winning awards or thinking "correctly", it's about operating within the bounds of good faith arguments, and adherence to ethical standards agreed upon by society at large. You can enjoy all the political opinions you wish, but don't confuse them with fact based news reporting.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by RickSanchez2600 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:04PM (#19050341)
CLickbait articles where you have to click for each page of the article are the worst. You know they do it for advertising revenue and not for journalistic integrity.

Some of these alt-media sites are political and put a spin on stories as well.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by bayulxc5 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:06PM (#19050357)
The MAGA teens story has showed that it's not like "reputable" sources have any accountability, rigor, or seriousness.
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by adamrezich on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:03PM (#19050340)
How did the other response to this comment get [dead] within _one minute_ of being posted?
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by bayulxc5 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:06PM (#19050367)
The account is shadowbanned. (Heads up, loraa!)
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by michaelmrose on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:20PM (#19050491)
So incoming ban for you too?
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by bayulxc5 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:22PM (#19050507)
Yes, I get banned every day, creating new accounts is part of my routine. :P
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by webninja on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:21PM (#19056807)
Why would you go through all that effort just to have the door slammed in your face? It’s like showing up to a random person’s house party uninvited, being booted out, and returning each week. It’s not like you can’t create your own house party or find another house party where you’re invited to.
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Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by adamrezich on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:21PM (#19050499)
None of your assessment of loraa's posting in any way answers my question.
Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by loraa on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:58PM (#19050297)
Seems like companies like the New York Times doesn't either, so what is the difference.

The big MSM companies know they have the power to spread fake news and have a good amount of people blindly believe.

Re:Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing by amaccuish on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:13PM (#19050430)
> MSM won't get my dime while they push political agendas instead and target the opposition

I think you mean, mostly (with a few exceptions), tell the truth? I feel like you're likely searching specifically with news agendas you agree with, rather than reading a broad range of mainstream sources and pulling the threads together yourself.

I mean, if you really want very dry, just fact news, follow a news agency [1], but I suspect you don't really want facts...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_agency