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Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by bubblethink on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:00PM (#19047009)
>My Plex server will never close

Plex is proprietary and can shut down any time. Although it runs locally, it contacts the plex servers for quite a lot of stuff. Granted, you won't lose your media and can replace plex easily.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by tjbiddle on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:26PM (#19047878)
Yes, but the underlying media is still yours. Just switch to a different media server and you're good to go.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by cmiles74 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:11PM (#19047733)
It would be inconvenient for Plex to stop functioning. But with all the data stored locally, it will be pretty easy to move to another product. Worst case I might setup Samba and just watch from a laptop.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by __david__ on Friday February 01, 2019 @05:07PM (#19059211)
For example, my dvd/bluray rips have gone through a number of servers: pytivo, stream-to-me, subsonic, and plex. Each time it's just setting up the daemon and pointing it to the media directory. It's nicer when you don't have to switch, but the non-DRM nature of the rips makes it so pretty much anything can serve them up to me.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by svnpenn on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:06PM (#19047070)
any good alternative? Kodi? Universal Media Server?
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kakarot on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:09PM (#19047102)
Depends on which features matter to you. If you want an immersive content library like Plex, it's harder to find substitutes.

If you just want a way to stream music and movies from your own server or home computer, with on-the-fly re-encoding to adjust to available bandwidth, I would recommend airsonic. https://github.com/airsonic/airsonic

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by svnpenn on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:26PM (#19047277)
sounds good, but i dont do anything java on principle.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by GrinningFool on Thursday January 31, 2019 @05:33PM (#19049678)
> sounds good, but i dont do anything java on principle.

Since you're just running it and not developing it, what difference does the language make (beyond making sure you have mem/cpu to meet application requirements)?

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by Wowfunhappy on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:38PM (#19047410)
Huh? What's wrong with Java?
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by _underfl0w_ on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:08PM (#19047708)
You must have either:

1) insufficient knowledge of the source code behind the tools you use, or

2) a really dull and limited computing experience

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kazinator on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:16PM (#19047786)
I've never touched Java; do I have a dull and limited computing experience?

I maintain my own Lisp implementation that has a decent object system, exceptions, delimited continuations, compiler and virtual machine, and a whole-document pattern matching language for easy text transformation.

I've worked on early versions of the POSIX threading library for Glibc, Linux device drivers, all sorts of middleware stacks in wireless, VoIP and such.

Code of mine is in e2fsprogs: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/fs/ext2/e2fsprogs.git/tree/li...

In Wireshark: https://code.wireshark.org/review/gitweb?p=wireshark.git;a=b...

I started working with 8 bit microcomputers in the early 1980's, writing games and utilities, and dial-up BBS's, using assembly language and BASIC. I had dabbled in 3D graphics and the "demo" scene. I used to code in Pascal and Modula-2 before C. I've worked as a C++ dev for many years.

Java simply isn't something that would interest me. Java programs look verbose and blubby. To be fair, a lot of what I use and have used is blubby, like the C language, Unix shell and whatnot. But I don't need more blubby. I have my fill of blub calories already. The Java platform bloated, and the ecosystem is self-absorbed. To its credit, it has a reputation for supposedly having good garbage collection and concurrency in its VM, that's about it.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kakarot on Thursday January 31, 2019 @03:26PM (#19048463)
I think it's admirable that you have such a wide experience with programming and open source. And I'm sure we could riff on Oracle and the Java platform all day.

But considering airsonic runs on Java, and you aren't developing for it, the only relevant issues with respect to the source language are performance and program size in terms of both memory and storage.

Considering you're storing videos on this server, storing a tiny Java app is a non-issue. And the memory the program itself takes up is meager compared to the memory usage from streaming and encoding/decoding media. If I had to guess, based on the lean interface, it has a lower memory profile than Plex. Performance, again on par with Plex.

So, if you don't have an ideological opposition to Java due to its proprietary nature, then I don't understand why you give a shit if the best media server for your needs runs on it.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kazinator on Thursday January 31, 2019 @03:49PM (#19048694)
I'm only responding to the idea that someone's experience is limited and dull if they don't work with Java.

We can hardly avoid using Java stuff in daily lives. If you use Android at all, you're using Java programs. Lots of web applications have Java back ends.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kakarot on Thursday January 31, 2019 @04:11PM (#19048921)
The premise wasn't that OP doesn't work with Java. OP's premise was that they won't even use applications that use Java. Which is basically everything.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kazinator on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:33PM (#19050132)
Not really; OP seems not to want to install some server side thing written in Java, which is fair. I wouldn't want to muck around with it, either.

If someone else has done that (on the other side of an HTTP wall, for instance), I don't care.

> Which is basically everything.

Sorry to burst your Java bubble, but no, it isn't.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kakarot on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:59PM (#19050975)
1. That was obvious hyperbole

2. I hate Java as a language but it is used in embedded systems everywhere. Oh look, another hyperbole.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by chungy on Thursday January 31, 2019 @05:10PM (#19049460)
Java doesn't even have a proprietary nature (anymore). It is licensed under the GNU GPL.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by kakarot on Thursday January 31, 2019 @09:00PM (#19050980)
Correct, I was pointing out that there isn't grounds for such a position.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by lbeltrame on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:00PM (#19049892)
You may want to follow the development of Jellyfin (https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin), which is a fork of the Emby Media Server when it became proprietary.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with Jellyfin's team, I just contributed one patch to the codebase.

Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by bni on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:30PM (#19047323)
Linux server with Samba share. I used this setup with XBMC/Kodi for many years. Recently switched to Infuse on the AppleTV 4K without changing a single thing with the Samba setup.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by msla on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:07PM (#19047698)
> Linux server with Samba share. I used this setup with XBMC/Kodi for many years.

Ha! I use precisely this setup for my media needs: Kodi runs on an Odroid-XU4 SBC hooked up to a wired gigabit Ethernet LAN and my Big Display Device (the one with the ATSC tuner) and my server is my laptop. I even created some hinky shell scripts to play arbitrary video files:

https://github.com/chbarts/kodi-command-line

I have the YouTube plugin so I can do things like

    kodi-play $YOUTUBE_URL
or

    kodi-play -y $YOUTUBE_VIDEO_ID
(When I was doing research on this project, it was kinda frustrating how many websites assumed I'd be making the SBC the server.)
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by bubblethink on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:27PM (#19047294)
Yes, kodi is good for the use cases it covers. It doesn't cover some of Plex's functionality though (mainly transcoding and the client server model)
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by berti on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:17PM (#19047180)
Emby works well for me, better than Plex ever did. https://emby.media/
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by bubblethink on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:24PM (#19047257)
Emby became proprietary as well. So no real reason to choose it.
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by berti on Thursday January 31, 2019 @11:00PM (#19051462)
Didn't know that, thanks. The reason for me was that Plex kept corrupting it's database every few months, whereas I haven't had to touch Emby (other than upgrading via system package manager).
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by password4321 on Friday February 01, 2019 @09:47PM (#19060690)
Re:UltraViolet DRM will close on July 31, 2019 by dleslie on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:41PM (#19047457)
I use Kodi for the media center, paired with Kore on our phones.

mpd and icecast for in the go streaming.