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Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by mc32 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:55PM (#19041889)
Lots of countries contend with this: Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Britain, etc. People adapt. Perhaps we grow to appreciate our food and throw out less waste.
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by Qworg on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:42AM (#19042649)
Even at wages closing in on 3x minimum wage, we cannot get enough farm labor[1] - obviously low skilled American labor still doesn't want the job. What's the solution?

[1] https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by lorenzhs on Thursday January 31, 2019 @04:50AM (#19043655)
Because farm work isn't really low skilled. Sarah Taber did an excellent Twitter thread on this: https://twitter.com/sarahtaber_bww/status/107598191085642547...
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by Qworg on Thursday January 31, 2019 @10:48AM (#19045553)
I agree, but they can't even get unskilled labor into the pool at that price.
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by rhexs on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:09AM (#19042774)
Pay more, else go out of business. Why do I, the American taxpayer, need to subsidize already heavily subsidized farmers?
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by adrianN on Thursday January 31, 2019 @09:12AM (#19044771)
The ability to grow food in the country has pretty high strategic value. If you let your farmers go out of business your country loses domain knowledge in farming.
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by Qworg on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:27AM (#19042854)
How are you subsidizing them? You're getting cheap food - truck crop farming is notoriously low margin. Are you prepared for $15/pint strawberries?
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by mc32 on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:39AM (#19044590)
Strawberry pints from farms which do not utilize unregulated workers come in typically at about $6 to $7 pint. They’re typically smaller scale, so large scale can have them at retail for around $5. If that helps all of us, the farmer the temporary worker and consumers, I don’t see a problem with it. Strawberries and such aren’t staples like wheat and rice (highly mechanized and automated).
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by dragonwriter on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:42AM (#19044609)
> Strawberry pints from farms which do not utilize unregulated workers

There is no such thing as “unregulated workers”, just employers that don't obey the regulations applicable to their workers.

Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by Qworg on Thursday January 31, 2019 @10:49AM (#19045567)
How do you know that they're not using undocumented people? That also says nothing of the price increase as the pool of documented farm labor dries up.
Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by rswail on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:45AM (#19043169)
As an Australian, this is funny. Your Dept of Agriculture is one of the most socialist "redistributors of wealth" in the world.

Annual subsidies to US farmers is of the order of $25B+ per year. This includes non-tariff barriers such as price supports for sugar, import barriers and quotas such as on lamb and beef, export supports, crop insurance and other benefits.

The DoA has been doing this for 75+ years and the majority of farms are now corporate-owned. The majority of these taxpayer subsidies are directed straight into the hands of corporate shareholders.

Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by dragonwriter on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:44AM (#19044618)
> Your Dept of Agriculture is one of the most socialist "redistributors of wealth" in the world.

Redistribution from the many to the wealthy few isn't socialist redistribution.

Re:U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers by oblio on Thursday January 31, 2019 @05:29AM (#19043793)
Those countries import a ton of food...