Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by mont on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:06AM
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I realize it's a really sexy headline, but I'd like for there to be more than 0 proof that this is a real thing. Especially if they claim a vulnerability that's exploitable by only sending a text.
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Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by swebs on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:18AM
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This article doesn't cite sources, but the other one cites Lori Stroud, a former developer of the application.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-spyi...
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by ganoushoreilly on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @01:43PM
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Lauri did not develop the program. She was an solely an intelligence analyst.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by bkdbkd on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @11:36AM
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A much more technical description of the program. Thank you.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by shittyadmin on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @11:09AM
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There've been similar issues in both iOS and Android before - iOS had one recently where a text would cause repeated app crashes. Back in 2009 there was a full exploit via SMS on iOS, and just a few years back the Android stagefright exploit was barely spared from turning into a giant worm due to exploit mitigations and the diversity of devices. It's quite possible to see these attacks come to light in a much scarier way. That exploit is solid gold and they probably paid a small fortune for it.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by kuuspa on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:50AM
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I am 100% sure this is an exploit related to PDU mode SMS messages. Tons of phones of different brands are probably vulnerable to variations of this attack.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by newaccoutnas on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @11:05AM
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I think the asertion that it's on the baseband is correct, for sure
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by alasdair_ on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @02:36PM
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>Especially if they claim a vulnerability that's exploitable by only sending a text.
For some time, it was possible to crash some iPhones by texting them a Taiwanese flag emoji (which was censored by mainland China). https://www.cultofmac.com/561635/apples-taiwanese-flag-ban-l...
I don't know offhand if this was a buffer overflow or something else, but if you can crash the OS with a text, you . could likely exploit it instead.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by saagarjha on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:12PM
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> I don't know offhand if this was a buffer overflow or something else
It was an issue when the device's local was set incorrectly and would return NULL, leading to a crash in CFStringCompare.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by alasdair_ on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:52AM
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Many thanks!
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by brisance on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:59PM
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The description of the hack fits StageFright perfectly[1], which was exactly what it did. The sources may have just changed the affected platform to iOS to gain some traction.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by m-ee on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:15AM
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A stagefright style iOS bug was reported around the time this took place
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by brisance on Thursday January 31, 2019 @01:35AM
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I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by qaq on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:12AM
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I would imagine details of such an exploit are worth more than A million so doubt people would be eager to share
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by zozbot123 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:57AM
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There have been similar vulnerabilities in iOS before, such as the crashing bug that could be exploited by sending a single malformed ligature/combined character in some incredibly obscure Indian script.
Re:'Karma': A hack used by the UAE to break into iPhones of ...
by lawnchair_larry on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @11:03AM
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There is no reason to doubt this. It wouldn’t be the first time such a vulnerability was found.