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Re:Pharo 7.0 released by pjmlp on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @10:14AM (#18968775)
There is, if you consider it is a Smalltalk dialect.

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/

https://gemtalksystems.com/

So you can learn Smalltalk with Pharo and then get into the big boys Smalltalk.

However expect the typical enterprise projects where Oracle DB licenses are footnotes on the overall budget.

Re:Pharo 7.0 released by emaringolo on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @11:21AM (#18969373)
These are commercial vendors, but there are industrial uses of Pharo itself, and as Pharo gets better a lot of companies are moving from their commercial dialects to Pharo. In particular from Cincom Smalltalk to Pharo.
Re:Pharo 7.0 released by pjmlp on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @03:32PM (#18972140)
Thanks for the heads up.
Re:Pharo 7.0 released by igrekel on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @11:15AM (#18969320)
I deployed a few web apps running on gemstone based on their community edition starter license. You can get a lot going just based on that and it really isn't as expensive as Oracle.
Re:Pharo 7.0 released by pjmlp on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @03:31PM (#18972133)
The Oracle example was more a kind of figure of speech regarding the kind of clients that are willing to pay for commercial Smalltalk, based on the listed customers use cases.

How was your experience?

Re:Pharo 7.0 released by igrekel on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:33PM (#18991460)
Well, I never got to needing a paid license so it never was a worry. I found the database size tended to grow more slowly than what I expected from past experience with MariaDB/MySql and PostgreSQL.

All and all I found the killer really was the ability to store situations where an exception was raised and being able to replay it later. It saved a ton of time for debugging.

Re:Pharo 7.0 released by pjmlp on Friday January 25, 2019 @03:24AM (#18996396)
Thanks for the overview.