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Re:Pharo 11 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:23AM (#35902534)
Many languages need constructors (and static methods) because the class is not an object.

In Smalltalk the class is the sole instance of another class (MetaClass), so a "static method" becomes a "class-side" method. And so it is inheritable.

The meta relationship is hard to understand (at first), but it is part of what causes the parsimony in all the interactions, and the "everything is an object". https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57898036/is-it-true-that...

Primitives (as in int, double, etc.) are a different subject, and although an Integer or a Smallinteger is a specially optimized object, it has the overhead of being an object (as in "Boxed" Integer in other languages), instead of some bytes at some memory location.

Most of the times you don't need the optimized version, and if were the case that you do, then it's when you optimize that piece of execution specifically (maybe making an external call to a more low-level, optimized version).

Re:Pharo 7.0 released on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @11:21AM (#18969373)
These are commercial vendors, but there are industrial uses of Pharo itself, and as Pharo gets better a lot of companies are moving from their commercial dialects to Pharo. In particular from Cincom Smalltalk to Pharo.
Re:Pharo 7.0 released on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @11:19AM (#18969345)
The syntax is similar, and for the most part, compatible. Pharo's syntax has a few extra extensions, but nothing incompatible.

But Pharo's is inspired by Smalltalk, and I myself consider it Smalltalk, but the purpose of the detachment is to not be constrained by having to continue being Smalltalk.

E.g. in Pharo instance variables are first class objects (called "Slots").

Re:Alan Kay has agreed to do an AMA today on Monday June 20, 2016 @03:00PM (#11940389)
I think it is the only language that enables a single individual to understand a big and complex system like the development environment itself.
Re:Alan Kay has agreed to do an AMA today on Monday June 20, 2016 @02:31PM (#11940114)
Do you still see an advantage of using Smalltalk (like Squeak/Pharo) as a general purpose language/tool to build software or do you think that most of its original ideas were somehow "taken" by other alternatives?
Re:The Smalltalk Revolution on Friday January 09, 2015 @09:46AM (#8862394)
Mi experience about real systems

Dependency Management: Yes. Source code control: Yes (proprietary, file based/git) Continuous Integration: Jenkins, TravisCI, TeamCity Deployment: I'm aware of people using Docker and Ansible, and regular file copy/scp deployment.

I don't know what defines the verb "good", "flexible" and "well supported". I think they are. File based VCS is not out of the box, but is an available feature and many people are moving to that in order to use GitHub or similar services.

Re:Pharo 3.0 (the immersive live environment) Released on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @10:29AM (#7673509)
Excellent job guys. Kudos to the website designer too.
Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @10:30AM (#5401068)
Dolphin is stagnated since several years. It's a beatiful piece of Software, and the best Smalltalk Dialect in terms of native Windows integration. So good integration that its low level developer (Blair McGlashan) is working at Microsoft since several years ago.
Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @10:15AM (#5394265)
No, it doesn't. It is single process with "green threads". Same as node.js ;-)
Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @10:12AM (#5394246)
That depends a lot on your background and interests.

But if you like dynamic languages, and being highly productive with a "years ahead" development environment, then Pharo is a good alternative.

Many of the features you see added today to mainstream IDEs, have a background in Smalltalk. Even in Chrome Debugger the "code hot swap" is a showcase feature, whilst Smalltalk have it since decades.

And of course, Smalltalk provides features that no other environment/languages provides yet. So if you want to take advantage of those now, instead of waiting for them reaching mainstream, then it matters to use it now.

Features like those provided by Moose (http://moosetechnology.org/) will take years to be available as an Eclipse Plugin. :)

Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @09:16AM (#5393898)
True, the Seaside home page looks outdated. But people is still using it, and it is under active development.
Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @09:08AM (#5393846)
It is the most recent release of a the Smalltalk based programming environment, Pharo.

If you never heard of Smalltalk, you can google it. But as a summary I can tell you it is the father of Object-Oriented Programming, BitBlt, the Model-View-Controller pattern, the Unit Testing practice (SUnit), the Refactoring engine, among other things people take for granted today.

Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @08:48AM (#5393763)
It isn't fully functional, is it? The image from the CI opens with an STDOUT error.

What's missing to have a "nice" (working?) configuration for Pharo 2.0?

Re:Pharo 2.0 Released on Monday March 18, 2013 @08:06AM (#5393618)
I haven't seen a bigger release for a Smalltalk dialect in the last several years.

Great work!