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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by ummonk on Monday January 21, 2019 @01:20AM (#18958089)
There is no way in hell I'd ever sign up for that. To be expected to quit your current job on the hope that the probationary period works out is insane.
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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by dleslie on Monday January 21, 2019 @02:36AM (#18958452)
Much of the States is at will employment, and probation is standard practice where I am.

It's rare that people fail probation; so long as you apply for work you are actually capable of doing...

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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by C1sc0cat on Monday January 21, 2019 @04:38AM (#18959045)
Also the UK the first 2 years are effectively at will
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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by jenscow on Monday January 21, 2019 @08:18AM (#18960162)
Yes, I've learned that the hard way. Provided they give you payment in lieu of notice, they don't need much of a reason to let you go.

Myself and a co-worker were once let go for "performance reasons" at 10 months - just after project completion (successful). It was beyond my probationary period, and no issues where raised in the 2 performance reviews.

Their notice period was just 1 month. We were effectively cheap contractors.

My advice now is to treat offers with a low notice period (of them telling you) as a red flag. The norm is 3 months, after probation.

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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by C1sc0cat on Monday January 21, 2019 @09:04AM (#18960412)
Rather than just make you redundant on statutory terms - doing you on performance risks an industrial tribunal.
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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by jenscow on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:21AM (#18961344)
Not for less than 2 years: https://www.gov.uk/dismissal/what-to-do-if-youre-dismissed
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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by dleslie on Monday January 21, 2019 @05:32PM (#18964256)
The norm where I am, in BC, is two weeks for notice. It increases slightly the longer you're employed.
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Re:When hiring senior engineers, you’re not buying, you’re s... by Double_a_92 on Monday January 21, 2019 @10:24AM (#18960937)
That's common in Switzerland. But it goes both ways, i.e. you can leave the company any time if you don't like it without breaking the contract.
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