Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament

Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by TheGrumpyBrit on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:14AM (#18919331)

There was no need for detail, because the WTO already provides a framework for trade agreements. That was the assumed state people voted on - talk of a deal came afterwards, and was considered by many to be an attempt to do "Brexit in name only", causing a situation where we're still obligated to the EU but no longer have any MEPs.

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Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by gambiting on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:24AM (#18919374)

>>That was the assumed state people voted on

I can't believe anyone would make such an assumption. I know some people who 1) voted leave 2) are perfectly aware that under WTO rules their businesses would literally have to close because they trade with EU and their European partners won't accept a ~20% hike on the price of British products due to non-EU custom duties. They all wanted out of EU because they don't like the immigrants, because they think Brussels has too much power, but they all wanted easy trade with the EU. WTO trade is not what they voted for.

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Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by robertony on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:10AM (#18919855)

The "leavers" you talk to are pretty different from the leavers I talk to.

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Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by gambiting on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:16AM (#18919871)

Well of course, after all there are millions of them so I'm sure it's relatively easy to find people from any part of the "leaver" spectrum - from people who knew exactly what WTO is and are happy with it, to people who voted leave because they don't like the Polish shops on their street.

There isn't a single one reason why people voted leave.

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Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by rndmio on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:46AM (#18919474)

Stop trying to gaslight people with this garbage, it was never true that falling back to WTO rules was an intended destination after Brexit.

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Re:Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament by kitd on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:04AM (#18919831)

The WTO provides a loose foundation for trade without agreements, and guidance on how agreements can be reached.

Trade without agreements is subject to tariffs and major restrictions severe enough to cause serious economic damage.

Agreeing FTAs can take years, hence the need for a transition period until one is agreed between UK & EU.

What May did was entirely consistent with trying to achieve the Brexit that was voted for.

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