Toyota and Nissan have their hands raised, and have had their hands raised for decades.

The market for clean vehicles exists because Toyota and Nissan showed there was demand for it. Tesla came in and made better-looking cars (from a distance, they're quite shoddy looking up close), but they're competitively only because Toyota and Nissan have chosen to stick with their distinctive designs rather than put their EV tech into mainstream vehicles.

And Tesla's big problem is that the rest of the industry is finally getting around to putting their EV technologies into mainstream vehicles, almost all of which are better made and far more reliable.

What does that have to do with what he said about Tesla? Are you going to debate with him or are you going to make another non-contributing comment?

Rebuttals of the "Oh yeah? Well, what world changing things have YOU done?" variety are common if someone brings up anything remotely negative about Tesla.

Well, for myself, I've changed the law in several countries in ways that have greatly improved the lives of the people affected by them.

I feel pretty confident in my right to criticize Tesla for it's presumptive and poorly executed overreach.