Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by kawfey on Monday January 14, 2019 @12:33PM
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Users without the skills to verify the code isn't nefarious have to trust good samaritan developers instead.
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Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by aylmao on Monday January 14, 2019 @03:08PM
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> Users without the skills to verify the code isn't nefarious have to trust good samaritan developers instead.
I trust that amongst thousands of people with different incentives at least one will raise their voice if something is not right. At least more so than I trust a corporation with, in this case, the the wrong incentives to self-regulate to my expectations.
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by TearsInTheRain on Monday January 14, 2019 @05:42PM
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I've always wondered how much OS code gets audited or if everyone just assumes someone else will do it (bystander effect)
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by spion on Monday January 14, 2019 @01:51PM
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Nothing is 100% guaranteed, but with an open source project, given enough users, its far less likely for someone to be able to bury nefarious stuff without many eyes looking at it and at least one person sounding an alert.
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by dymk on Monday January 14, 2019 @02:12PM
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Yeah but really this isn't true. Popular open source that has tens of thousands of eyes on it still gets compromised all the time (see: npm). Even the Linux kernel has had rogue git commits injected into it.
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by spion on Monday January 14, 2019 @09:26PM
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The probem with npm isn't that open source doesn't help, its that the eyes get spread out thin when you have thousands of modules - so nobody is looking at the changes that happen in their lots of small dependencies.
Which is not to say that thats not a valid approach - but for it to work we need better tools to handle lots of git repos at once (for example, the ability to get notified about any new code on github that affects your project would be pretty cool, especially if its coming from people or organisations you haven't explicitly marked as trusted yet)
I would like to see someone try and sneak rogue commits into Linux. It would be quite the feat.
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by calcifer on Monday January 14, 2019 @03:12PM
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> the Linux kernel has had rogue git commits injected into it
What? Who "injected" what and when?
Re:Project Alias hacks Amazon Echo and Google Home to protec...
by spacedog11 on Monday January 14, 2019 @11:03PM
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I'm also interested to know more about this.