How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp expert's perspective?

Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by varjag on Monday January 07, 2019 @03:33AM (#18843686)

There's been a few Lisps targeting JVM since early 2000s, back when JVM arguably had a lot larger mindshare.

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Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by pjmlp on Monday January 07, 2019 @04:18AM (#18843876)

Given the amount of embedded devices with a JVM running on them, and the OSes that have someone selling a JVM for them, I would say the mindshare is even bigger nowadays, just not hip as it once was.

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Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by varjag on Monday January 07, 2019 @07:30AM (#18844652)

Unless you count Dalvik, there's probably more embedded devices running Node than JVM nowadays. The share of Java related technology has definitely declined on most platforms.

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Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by pjmlp on Monday January 07, 2019 @08:16AM (#18844845)

SIM Cards, eletricity meters, Cisco phones, Ricoh printers, factory control systems, IoT gateways, BluRay players, there are tons of invisile JVMs running on the wild.

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Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by varjag on Monday January 07, 2019 @08:38AM (#18844945)

You could say that in 2003, and that would have been even more true. Especially about BluRay players ;)

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Re:How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp exp... by pjmlp on Monday January 07, 2019 @09:58AM (#18845594)

My local library has started replacing DVDs with BluRay discs.

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