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Re:Seattle’s Homeless Challenge by schoen on Thursday January 03, 2019 @07:48PM (#18820975)
That's a great point. Maybe for example:

* level of negative externalities due to homeless people in city X goes down by Y%

* number of short-term homeless people in city X goes down by Y%

* number of chronically homeless people in city X goes down by Y%

* number of homeless people in city X goes down by Y% of which no more than Z% may be due to decreased arrival rate or increased departure rate of homeless people

* number of homeless people in city X goes down by Y% without raising net tax burden in city X by more than Z%

* tax burden of homeless services primarily met by those who benefit financially from increased rents

* housing stock in city X increases by Y%

* median apartment rent in city X decreases by Y%

* average apartment rent in city X decreases by Y%

* apartment rent in city X keeps place with inflation

* Gini coefficient (income inequality) in city X decreases to at least Y

* unemployment rate in city X decreases to at least Y

* government refrains from conditioning benefits or services on acceptance of drug treatment

* government refrains from conditioning benefits or services on cessation of drug use

* government refrains from conditioning benefits or services on acceptance of mental health care

* government requires acceptance of drug treatment or mental health care as a condition of receiving services

* no increase in arrests for crimes often committed by homeless people

* substantial increase in arrests for crimes that significantly affect other people's property or quality of life

(this isn't even including broader-based changes to unemployment insurance, welfare, or health care systems)

Re:Seattle’s Homeless Challenge by cco on Thursday January 03, 2019 @08:38PM (#18821255)
I don't disagree but you've already lost the voter. I think the best possible chance of success here wraps harm reduction and treatment strategies into an emotional story of paternalism/punishment.

That framework is really powerful in America and I've yet to see a narrative around harm reduction that resonates with most people, it just simply isn't attractive to spend tax money on needles and rent for drug addicts.

Re:Seattle’s Homeless Challenge by schoen on Friday January 04, 2019 @12:34AM (#18822208)
Oh, I meant this list to serve as examples of your point that people would find it hard to agree on these metrics, because some of them directly contradict each other!