Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid Brexit shutdown

Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by johannes1234321 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:03PM (#18816685)

From a legal perspective it might be as easy. From a political stance this is near impossible. No leading British politician offers a narrative supporting the EU in any way. Theresa May doesn't really like Brexit, but likes limiting immigration and has a position of "the people voted, so we have to deliver", opposition leader Corbyn says "Europe is okay, but EU is to capitalism, but we need more socialism", Rees-Mogg and other Brexiteers claim that a good Brexit was possible. Others are not as loud and present. If Parliament now votes to cancel Brexit this will lead to riots from hard core Brexiteers, both in Parliament and on the roads of some regions of especially England. To cancel Brexit you need leading politicians to admit they were stupid and form a positive narrative.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by AnimalMuppet on Thursday January 03, 2019 @03:05PM (#18818735)

> To cancel Brexit you need leading politicians to admit they were stupid and form a positive narrative.

Which may not be possible. It's far easier, after a turnover of leadership, to say "they were stupid", than it is for a leader to admit, "we were stupid".

I'm not in the UK, and I'm not that current on UK politics, but I think there is a bare possibility that this could happen. It would take a no-confidence vote against May, though, and probably before March.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by johannes1234321 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @03:19PM (#18818902)

Such a turnover would need an potential leader and such a leader is not in sight. Even if there were such a character they'd have to deal with characters like Rees-Mogg or Boris Johnson who will always claim that a "proper" Brexit were possible if the UK would show the "strength" against EU and not being as "weak" as Mrs. May.

Mind also that maybe a majority is pro remain now, but there is a notable amount of people who "want control" and by the Brexit vote "finally were heard" (even if consequences are bad it was their free and independent decision!) and where it is really hard to convince them to admit that their vote was "wrong" and tontolarate that other "smart people" in parliament overrule that will of "The People", again. This teaches those people, that voting doesn't matter.

In my opinion from a British perspective the best thing would be the software possible Brexit and then rejoin in a few years. However a soft Brexit isn't in the EU's interest. The EU has to distinguish between member and non-member. (While Norway and Switzerland historically have such complicated in between positions)

The only other way would be Brexiter to admit their failure and a charismatic leader without previous relevance who manages to unite the big divide with a magic wand. But I don't see such a person.

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