Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid Brexit shutdown

Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by Piskvorrr on Thursday January 03, 2019 @11:56AM (#18816613)

That's going to backfire, though.

The Scottish seem to think that when seceding from a Union is a legitimate option, and if a referendum can trigger a secession from the European Union, then, well, what about those 1707 Acts of Union with England? I believe this will happen come April, and that the current pro-brexit crowd will promptly label it undemocratic and unpatriotic - after all, breaking free from the yoke of Brussels is Something Completely Different than rejecting the friendly rule of Westminster. Right?

Madness, I tell you, with only more madness in sight.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by spuz on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:28PM (#18816958)

To give more detail on this issue:

If we were to accept May's deal as it was in December, the UK would leave the EU but remain entirely within the custom's union. Afterwards, plans would be made for NI to stay within the custom's union and the rest of the UK to leave. However, there is a term in the 1800 amendment of the the 1707 Acts of Union that says:

“that in all treaties made by his Majesty, his heirs, and successors, with any foreign power, his Majesty’s subjects of Ireland shall have the same privileges, and be on the same footing as his Majesty’s subjects of Great Britain.”

If this term is broken, it reverts all the countries of the UK back to individual states - i.e. Scotland would be independent by default and there is a good chance they would not vote for an amendment to the Acts of Union because they would prefer to stay in the EU.

That leaves politicians with two options: Either keep the UK in the custom's union indefinitely, or break up the United Kingdom.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/16989865.this-is-why-westm...

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by Piskvorrr on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:49PM (#18817178)

That, too. I don't see any deal as likely, however - Tories seem to be steering for a hard Brexit, and Labour only presents token effort against. Hard Brexit forecast, with showers of martial law likely.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by spuz on Thursday January 03, 2019 @04:52PM (#18819666)

By hard Brexit, do you mean "no-deal"? Because they are very different things. I think no-deal is looking like the most likely outcome at the moment. I can't see any chance of the tories putting forward a harder version of the May's deal before March 19th.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by Piskvorrr on Monday January 07, 2019 @07:08AM (#18844543)

I see. It's...complicated. Thanks for the clarification.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by faissaloo on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:38PM (#18817061)

I'm pro-Brexit and pro-Scottish independence, it doesn't seem to me like many Brexiters care at all what Scotland does.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by sleavey on Thursday January 03, 2019 @01:10PM (#18817444)

Interesting - I've not spoken to anyone who is both pro-Brexit and pro-Scottish independence. A lot of my pro-Scottish independence friends are in favour of it as a means of getting closer ties to the EU (a la Republic of Ireland). Indeed, the main political party in Scotland is pro-independence but anti-Brexit. Polite request: would you mind giving your reasoning for this stance?

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by faissaloo on Friday January 04, 2019 @07:29PM (#18829039)

It's quite simple really, I'm pro-Brexit for two reasons primarily: The EU has legislated against religious displayed in the workplace. The EU also has anti-reverse engineering laws like the EU Trade Secrets Directive that I dislike greatly. I'm pro-Scottish independence because I believe the British government is incompetent and malicious and it is best that Scotland is kept far away from its immoral behavior.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by Piskvorrr on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:44PM (#18817115)

...or Ireland, or NI, or Gibraltar, or indeed anyone at all (Wa...who?). IDGI, but whatever, that's apparently an English problem now.

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