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Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by sjwright on Monday December 31, 2018 @08:42PM (#18798368)
In the past, you bought software in a box from a retailer who took a margin as high as 50%. After you pay for manufacturing and distribution (shipping shrink-wrapped boxes of CD-ROMs, multilingual manuals and a unique serial number to retailers in Alaska and Singapore is definitely not free) a developer would be lucky to end up with one third of the retail price in their pocket.

The Apple app store is actually a huge improvement over that model; it just seems unfair because digital sales shouldn't cost much, right? Right??

Well, Apple created the marketplace. They spend a lot of money making that marketplace work correctly, keeping their software platforms and merchant facilities robust for customers and developers, and putting that marketplace in the hands of hundreds of millions of people. They built this opportunity for devlopers and every developer who has built an app did so knowing exactly what the terms were.

If you don't like it, don't complain after you voluntarily and knowingly agreed to the terms.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by josho on Monday December 31, 2018 @09:19PM (#18798515)
> Apple created the marketplace

It used to be that the maker of the OS spent tremendous efforts to attract developers. They did this for free to gain app market share.

So, your argument falls flat. Apple is doing this to generate profit. They continue doing so because of their dominant iOS market share and that for apps there is no alternative.

Please stop making excuses for trillion dollar companies.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by sjwright on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @12:45AM (#18799115)
> Apple is doing this to generate profit.

Yes, that's what companies do. If you don't like capitalism, your beef isn't with Apple, it's with your government.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by a1369209993 on Monday December 31, 2018 @09:18PM (#18798510)
> In the past, you bought software in a box from a retailer who took a margin as high as 50%.

In the past, you bought hardware that could run software from more than one retailer.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by sjwright on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @12:47AM (#18799121)
You still can, if that is you want.

You are free to make that choice.

Meanwhile, I'd appreciate if you didn't object to my right to choose a managed ecosystem if that is what I prefer. I like the Apple ecosystem the way it is, thank you very much.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by chii on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @01:26AM (#18799237)
> You are free to make that choice.

i do not believe that apple allows you to sideload apps without jailbreaking (which voids warranty iirc). Therefore, the user is not free to make that choice.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by sjwright on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @01:59AM (#18799302)
Let me be clearer.

You are free to make that choice [of running software from more than one retailer] by choosing a different computing platform. Hundreds of models of Android phone are available at every price point, from super-budget to super-premium.

It's important to me that I can choose a platform that has a strongly walled ecosystem because I greatly prefer the advantages of it more than I dislike the disadvantages. That's my opinion and I am happy that a product exists that satisfies my needs. If you don't like Apple's ecosystem, don't buy their products.

Asking for an Apple device that uses the Android/AOSP business model is like insisting that Jeep builds a Wrangler with a Tesla drivetrain. If that's really what you want and you're willing to put the effort in, you can make it yourself. It's entirely possible.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by stale2002 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @02:54AM (#18804837)
If Jeep started suing people for modifying their Jeep with a Tesla Drivetrain, I would object to that as well.

Or even if Jeep started adding specific "features" that attempted to make it difficult for people to modify their car.

Apple used to literally sue people for this stuff. That's immoral. And the courts shutdown those frivolous lawsuits from Apple.

It is perfectly reasonable for people to modify products that they own. If you don't like then, then feel free to not modify your product. You own it, and all.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by kderbyma on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @03:54AM (#18799484)
Sorry but your Argument falls flat....you cannot use android as an option to defend Apple. If apple fails to meet the needs for the user you cannot defend them and say 'but you can choose android' that is not freedom. Freedom within Apple would mean the ability to easily host and run applications as desired. They do not have alveen caught trying to suppress users freedom. Aka jailbreaking and their fight make it illegal
Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by zaphar on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @08:50AM (#18800157)
His entire point is that Apple does in fact meet his needs as a user. It meets those needs precisely because of the choices they have made. This may mean that Apple doesn't meet your needs as a user. However, asking Apple to be all things to all users is an impossible requirement.

The market has your back though, because Android gives you a very different experience from Apple.

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by sjwright on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @09:35AM (#18800317)
Exactly right, thank you.
Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by eknkc on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @02:21AM (#18799340)
You can buy an Android.
Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by threeseed on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @01:10AM (#18799194)
Not sure what you are talking about here.

You could never buy software for your phone from more than one retailer. Or are you trying to force the desktop computing model onto Apple ?

Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by Schlaefer on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @02:44AM (#18799377)
The app store didn't replace offline retail, the internet did. Software was sold online before the app store came along just fine. With app-stores we are back in retailer country: convenient as a customer but the manufacturer has to pay a fee to be boxed and put on the digital shelf.
Re:Netflix stops paying the ‘Apple tax’ on its $853M in annu... by frf37 on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @07:24AM (#18799931)
And there is only one shelf! This is way worst than retailer country.