Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by dontreact on Thursday December 27, 2018 @09:20PM
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I believe this article is about a provision in the ACA to limit administrative costs to 20%, which is highly unimpressive when you look at the way non profit insurance works in every other developed country.
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Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by paulddraper on Thursday December 27, 2018 @09:33PM
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Perhaps. Where are you getting the 5% administrative costs?
All numbers I've seen have been far higher than that.
* Canada 12%
* Britain 16%
* Netherlands 20%
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/sites/default/files/___medi...
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by throw-far-away on Friday December 28, 2018 @03:38AM
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Bigger hospitals can afford to have a modest administrative cost because there are fixed (as opposed to variable costs that scale with patients served and departments funded) that scale and amortize in huge organizations. Small hospitals (let's say somewhere in Iceland) either have to do without fancy tech/better staff that usually command more $$$, or have to spend more, increasing their overhead. In reality and to be fair, it's better to compare their patient outcomes and financials in-depth rather than looking at the overhead percentages only.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by Steko on Thursday December 27, 2018 @09:46PM
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Your link is provider admin costs. IIRC insurer admin costs are 3% for UK and 5% for Canada.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by paulddraper on Thursday December 27, 2018 @10:37PM
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You're correct; good clarification on which admin costs we're talking about.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by dontreact on Friday December 28, 2018 @06:32AM
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Right, I was only talking about insurance administrative costs.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by garmaine on Thursday December 27, 2018 @09:32PM
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That just means you have to increase costs to increase profits. It's NOT a solution, as a century of ballooning cost-plus government contracts have shown.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by dontreact on Thursday December 27, 2018 @11:28PM
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I’m not saying that the solution is to close this gap. It’s just another sign of the failure of our system. Seems like there is plenty of evidence around the world that insurance companies can be non profit and work quite well. In fact in the US this was the case until the 80s.
Re:John Stockman’s Medical Bills Topped $1M – What Happened?
by garmaine on Friday December 28, 2018 @09:03AM
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I'm just pointing out that the specific structure you specified has truly perverse incentives that have historically raised costs in every industry in which they've been applied (which includes not just healthcare and other insurance markets, but also defense spending since WW2).