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Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by robin_reala on Thursday December 20, 2018 @07:27AM (#18724313)
Linux only by the looks of things though.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by lloeki on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:04AM (#18724539)
The equivalent on macOS would leverage Hypervisor.framework, like xhyve or Veertu.

https://github.com/machyve/xhyve

https://veertu.com/anka-technology/#hypervisor

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by wlesieutre on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:39AM (#18726383)
I gather that Veertu has (had?) a product called Veertu Desktop and it was open sourced, but they've wiped any mention of it from their website in favor of Anka Flow/Device/Build (commercial license only).

This looks like the source, found in a github repo of someone who works for Cisco. Maybe a former Veertu employee, or just someone who happened to fork a copy before Veertu deleted it? At any rate, I can't find an official Veertu repo anymore. https://github.com/tithomas1/vdhh

Last updates were 2 years ago and the installation instructions say "To Install Veertu Desktop on Mac, please visit veertu.com" which has deleted everything related to Veertu Desktop down to the knowledge base articles with release notes https://twitter.com/veertu_labs/status/818584467954495488

Seems like a pretty thoroughly dead product. Haven't heard of xhyve before, but between the two that's the one worth looking at.

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by regularfry on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:45AM (#18726455)
Not only open sourced, but GPLv2'd. Ripe for forking, if one felt so inclined.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by wlesieutre on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:53AM (#18726528)
Sure but GPLv2 doesn't help you if all copies of the source code are gone, so be sure to grab a copy of that vdhh repo now in case tithomas1 removes his.

I imagine it's not in a working state on current versions of macOS, what with the security changes that Apple makes pretty much every year. But if someone wanted to try to get it going again they certainly could.

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by rbanffy on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:08PM (#18726717)
Docker for Mac has moved from VirtualBox to the built-in hypervisor.

I have the impression that causes some pain when it starts eating away battery faster than the monitor can charge the laptop.

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by nine_k on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:14PM (#18726800)
Hmm, never noticed that; to the contrary, in my practice, Docker's VM eats CPU less aggressively than VirtualBox's.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by lloeki on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:39AM (#18732304)
Indeed, it's called HyperKit[0][1], and it's based straight off xhyve[2].

Also, there's docker-machine-driver-xhyve for people that prefer using docker-machine (like I do) instead of DfM.

[0]: https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

[1]: https://blog.docker.com/2016/05/docker-unikernels-open-sourc...

[2]: https://github.com/moby/hyperkit/tree/master/src/

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by nine_k on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:16PM (#18726814)
Last time I tried, reasonably recent kernels (like 4.15 or so) failed to boot under Veertu, for no apparent reason.

Have they improved?

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by mr_toad on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:19PM (#18730746)
Xhyve looks promising, but it’s really new and at this stage it lacks all but the most basic documentation.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by teekert on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:31AM (#18724701)
Exactly, I'm upvoting this to prevent poor souls stuck on Windows from looking for these nice solutions...
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by cm2187 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:20AM (#18725046)
But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by cpach on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:28AM (#18725667)
I tried Hyper-V for a while but I found the network configuration really cumbersome. Therefore I went back to Virtualbox but I should probably request my employer to buy a license for Vmware.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by cm2187 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:11AM (#18726111)
Is it because you switched frequently from one adapter to another (like wifi to ethernet)? Otherwise I don't think I ever had any problem with the network configuration.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by jstarks on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:19AM (#18726189)
In Windows 10, we provide a NAT network option by default. This should work seamlessly even if you switch between WiFi and Ethernet. So even this problem should go away for most people now.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by cm2187 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:51AM (#18726510)
Didn't the NAT get pulled from hyper-V?
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by jstarks on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:20PM (#18731386)
I don’t think so. It’s only there by default on client, not server, though.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by vbezhenar on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:25AM (#18725089)
You need Windows Pro as a guest to RDP.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by candiodari on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:07AM (#18726063)
Not if you use the Virtualbox extension pack to VNC (that's the free/GPL extension pack, not the Oracle one). That will work with anything. Hell, it'll work with a DOS 1.0 guest.

(and yes, it's VNC, not RDP, I believe the oracle extension pack actually allows for Virtualbox to do RDP as well. But you can stay GPL-only and still support headless VNC. I believe phpVirtualbox uses it with beautiful results)

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85886

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by akulbe on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:57AM (#18725382)
Can't you only RDP (and here is the qualifier) out-of-the-box with an "Enhanced Guest" VM, like what comes with some of the later Windows 10 builds, like 1809?

Otherwise, don't you have to do everything by hand to configured xrdp on the Linux guest?

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by cm2187 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:05AM (#18725456)
Well technically hyper-v comes with its own terminal, but granted it kind of sucks and I wouldn't use continuously.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by Silhouette on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:14PM (#18728675)
I think Hyper-V is Windows 8+ (or similar generations of Windows Server), isn't it?

Much of the Windows world is still on Windows 7, and it would be rather ironic if they were updating because of concerns about software phoning home...

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by mr_toad on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:21PM (#18730757)
Hyper V requires a Windows Pro license last time I checked. That’s significantly more expensive that VirtualBox.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by jki275 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:21AM (#18725056)
I use hyper-v and rdp every day, very happy with both. I even run Linux VMs in hyper-v.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by border43 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:01AM (#18726013)
I've had nothing but issues trying to run Ubuntu in Hyper-V. Even the Windows Ubuntu LTS image that comes with the quick-create didn't work for very long.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I've never has success with non-windows OS's.

Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by jki275 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:29AM (#18726277)
What host version? I'm running 18.04 on Server 2016, for reference, did absolutely nothing special or unique, downloaded the iso, built the machine and loaded it and it's up running dns & unifi controller 24/7 for my home network with no issues.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by novaRom on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:49AM (#18725314)
Can you run singularity-container or docker in your Linux guest?
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by jki275 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:19AM (#18725574)
I haven't had reason to try, but I can't imagine a good reason why one couldn't.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by coredog64 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:40AM (#18725790)
I would hope so, as that is what the Win10 version of Docker-for-Windows does.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by codereflection on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:43AM (#18725817)
Yes
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by Narishma on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:29PM (#18729308)
Hyper-V only works on the Pro versions of Windows.
Re:VirtualBox 6.0 released by gaius on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:12AM (#18725511)
WSL has supplanted VirtualBox for actually all of my use cases.