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Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by sixothree on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @06:09PM (#18659860)
Most of those GUIs are just wrappers for the CLI to begin with.

Heck, the default installation of windows does not even have a GUI. People ahem really need to update their thinking of what it means to be Windows.

Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by zbentley on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @08:11PM (#18660548)
That's misleading at best (GUI windows apps that technically can be emulated from the commandline often practically cannot be--CLI tools or the registry/config-file interactions required to perform actions that are clearly exposed and well-documented in the GUI often have nonexistent or terrible documentation. In even marginally complex apps, this puts the effort required to script the functionality of the GUI on par with the effort of reverse engineering it--and that's Microsoft-authored tools and Windows functionality, which is worlds ahead of most third-party software in scriptability) and just plain false at worst (huge swaths of stuff just don't have APIs that are accessible without writing and compiling code--PowerShell and very aggressive pushes by Microsoft for WMI/CMI and WinRM more recently have only just begun to erode that).
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by scarface74 on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @10:27PM (#18661144)
AFAIK, the only way that you can even set a system wide environment variable without using the GUI is by using Powershell to modify the system registry.
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by sixothree on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @09:19PM (#18660859)
How is it misleading at all? Hyper-V Manager for example is literally a wrapper for Powershell commands.

Virtually all Windows administration can be done entirely in Powershell.

And like I said, the literal default installation of Windows does not even include a GUI.

Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by icedchai on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @09:35PM (#18660934)
What do you consider the "literal default installation"?
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by tremon on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @08:15AM (#18663568)
Every Windows Server release following 2016 RTM: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/...
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by icedchai on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @02:23PM (#18666888)
I think we have differing terminology. I would consider this a GUI. After all, the command prompts are running in windows. You can move them with your mouse. Other utilities (like regedit) are available, and are not command line / text-only applications.
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by kivikakk on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @10:37PM (#18661184)
Something very, very different to everyone else, it would seem.
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by lostlogin on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @03:31AM (#18662295)
‘Windows’ would be an interesting name for a product that by default had none.
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by sixothree on Thursday December 13, 2018 @03:06PM (#18675538)
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by sixothree on Thursday December 13, 2018 @03:06PM (#18675537)
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by icedchai on Thursday December 13, 2018 @05:18PM (#18676648)
Ok. Can you post an image of what the screen looks like after you log in?
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by gsich on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @01:21AM (#18661758)
Probably the Nano version.
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Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by jimmaswell on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @12:32AM (#18661613)
What are your criteria for a "proper operating system" that just happen to exclude the most-used desktop operating system?
Re:Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH by isostatic on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @04:57AM (#18662623)
This is about "Windows Server", which is an irrelevance. As indeed in "Windows Desktop" for the last decade as almost everything is now web-based.