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Re:Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel by simonh on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @04:56AM (#18654233)
All of what you say is true and I completely agree it's important to have open solutions out there. What vertical solutions offer though is accountability.

If there is a security issue in the iPhone everybody knows who owns the problem. If there are scammy apps in the iOS App Store - and there actually are - everyone knows who has the power and responsibility to clean that up.

Re:Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel by metildaa on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @05:57AM (#18654486)
Open source isn't a solution to the problem you bring up, proper maintenance processes are.

A great example of this is the Debian package archive, with 51,000 packages in the archive, you know each package has a maintainer that has vetted that package, and they will maintain it for the rest of the release (usually 2 or 3 years) even if the developers of it wander off or disappear.

Key to this is the Debian Social Contract, which defines what is acceptable, and when maintainers should start ripping out malicious anti-features or reject malicious updates from the upstream project: https://www.debian.org/social_contract

Comparatively, PyPI & npm are unmaintained dumping grounds of sketchy software, like copying code sight unseen off StackOverflow, but with the added risk of every update potentially being malicious.

The lack of separate, objective maintainers for these package archives has caused a plethora of issues, from packages randomly disappearing, anti-features being added, to malicious code being embedded. This is a cultural issue around managing packages that the Free Software world mostly solved decades ago, yet Open Source communities like nodejs can't figure out these basic processes that prevent bad shit from happening to packages in their archive.

Re:Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel by jacobush on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @06:12AM (#18654547)
I agree with the specific examples and symptoms you cite, and yet I can't really see the dividing line being Open Source vs Free Software.

Say, OpenBSD is thoroughly vetted and ("soft, permissive") Open Source. They also have a social contract. (Perhaps not in writing as much as in culture, I am not very familiar with the BSDs either technically or socially but I know the software is very well vetted and accounted for.) Or maybe I misunderstood the distinction you make.

Re:Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel by amelius on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @07:03AM (#18654753)
In my experience, if a company owns the entire supply chain then they are usually a (semi-)monopoly and don't care much about actual the problems you have, unless they also affect a large percentage of their customer base.
Re:Amazon’s Chips Threaten Intel by sametmax on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @06:16AM (#18654574)
And how did that work out ? Apple is still doing whatever they want, shut down competition and steal ideas, but never pays any consequences for their mistakes.

So how is that any good for us ?