News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:How Linode Screwed Me by nemothekid on Saturday December 08, 2018 @03:09AM (#18634373)
Maybe this should be flagged and removed, but the author is completely in the wrong here.

As far as Linode, or anyone else should care, the guy who is paying for the account, owns the account. If he's the one paying the bills, why wouldn't have access to the account?

Re:How Linode Screwed Me by king_phil on Saturday December 08, 2018 @06:08AM (#18634767)
I don't see how that is true. I own a web hosting business (since 2003). This situation is EXTREMELY common (like 5%-10% of accounts).

I do not see how the payer is the account owner. At all. Can you clarify why that would be?

Legally speaking (in german law): The account owner is the person who opened the account, because that is the person who the provider has made the contract with (except the situation of a "Geschäftsbesorgungsvertrag" or a "Vollmacht" [ letter of authorization, power of authority, idk. whats the english term] where you make the contract for someone else). The payer may have a legal connection to the account owner (will, in 99% of the cases, but must not), but not to the provider.

So legally speaking Linode - at least in german law - Linode is providing unauthorized access to a tzhrid party and will be held accountable for all the damages the account owner suffers. That is a violation of GDPR, too. You'd propbably resolve that by a simple letter from your attorney or a court order if Linode does not comply (taking a few days only because of "emergency conditions").

It's not easy to translate all the legalese, I hope you can follow ;-)

Re:How Linode Screwed Me by JeanMarcS on Saturday December 08, 2018 @12:51PM (#18636436)
I am using OVH since we stopped using our own servers in a closet and had to upgrade our services.

When you rent a server, or a VPS, you have 3 contacts. Administrative, technic and billing. Like for domain names.

That way, when a client wants to directly get his own server, they put me as technical contact (and can revoke me if ever they want).

The main contact is the administrative one. It can change the other contacts.

All is clear, and if problems like OP had happens, then someone did a really worse choice

Re:How Linode Screwed Me by WeAreGoingIn on Saturday December 08, 2018 @03:41AM (#18634482)
Interesting question.

I did some terms in the board for our cooperative housing association (Sweden). The association signed up for a web hosting account. The association paid for the account but a private person had to own the account, which had all the access.

Changing the owner - even if the association paid the bills - was a big hassle and not easy. The hosting company where/are pretty strict about this.

Hence, the everyone in the OPs story made bad choices.

Re:How Linode Screwed Me by amaccuish on Saturday December 08, 2018 @05:50AM (#18634731)
I think it's good to keep here as a reminder about doing business properly and being careful.
Re:How Linode Screwed Me by StavrosK on Saturday December 08, 2018 @04:37AM (#18634596)
Was it actually the guy's card on there? The author says he opened the account before meeting the guy, but doesn't say he changed the card on the account. If so, seriously, what's linode to do? Siding with someone other than the person who pays for the account is opening up to a whole lot of fraud.
Re:How Linode Screwed Me by Ecstatify on Saturday December 08, 2018 @03:31AM (#18634451)
A wild linode representative appears