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Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by baybal2 on Thursday December 06, 2018 @02:39PM (#18621313)
Into a piece of yellow metal.

Edit. More background on that:

In 2014, after years and years of my parents droning "think about buying a house," I finally decided to teach my parents a lesson, and show them just how bad their investment advice is.

So in the end, I lost around 53 thousand dollars in total from FX, fees, lawyers, drop of property value, and my ability to sleep well at night.

And in 2016, I got kicked out of Canada, as my employer was unable to secure me an LMIA after trying 3 times.

The only thing that prevented me from hitting the bottom was that I was also saving gold since I was 15, when I first bought few crumbs from semi-legal gold prospectors from China.

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by nodesocket on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:10PM (#18621649)
Gold isn't as invere to the market as people think. In the last month it is only up 1%[1], while the market has tanked.

[1] https://yhoo.it/2Uptpoy

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by interfixus on Thursday December 06, 2018 @02:49PM (#18621429)
No idea why you are downvoted. Indisputably the safest investment for several millenia running.
Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by rfinney on Thursday December 06, 2018 @02:59PM (#18621536)
Inflation adjusted price of gold is down almost 50% from 1980:

https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-...

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by interfixus on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:09PM (#18621637)
How many 1980 investments are at fifty percent or better today?
Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by gnopgnip on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:17PM (#18621736)
Since 1980, after adjusting for inflation Gold lost 50%, the S&P 500 is up 600%, or 1700% with reinvesting dividends in the S&P 500.
Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by interfixus on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:23PM (#18621801)
Completely beside the point. The question was safety, not potential profitability.

Also, please paint the full picture: How many percent of all 1980 investments retain halt their value or more today? My first guess would be: A small minority.

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by gnopgnip on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:18PM (#18630656)
Looking at safety, investing in individual stocks or precious metals like gold is a poor choice. Index funds, or bonds have much less volatility.

To paint a full picture, how many people who invested in physical gold still have it, and how many had it stolen or lost it, or were scammed buying something other than real gold?

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by soundwave106 on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:39PM (#18621968)
Depends what you mean by "safe".

Gold is considered a commodity investment, and shares the high volatility that is common in this class. (https://view.ingwb.com/sector-and-volatility-commodities)

Gold does have unique historic status as a currency or a backer of currency. I'm not in 100% agreement, but this does mean some see gold as a hedge against large-scale financial trouble.

However, that same historic status has made this asset in particular vulnerable to investment scams. (https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-2016/gold-coin-i...) This is one caution about this investment that you don't have to worry about as much compared to if you invest in, say, pork futures.

I would argue the "safest investment" is a diversified portfolio, personally.

Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by bytematic on Thursday December 06, 2018 @02:53PM (#18621478)
During periods of fx doubt, even more so. This includes recessions and right after them
Re:Market Moves Suggest a Recession Is Unavoidable by chimpburger on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:17PM (#18621729)
Gold is extremely volatile. You can lose 50% or more in the medium term if you buy when its at an all time high.