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Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by brendanmc6 on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:17PM (#18615367)
I agree with you, but a hardware specific messaging app is just stupid.

As you can tell by the length of my last post, thinking about this situation has got me upset.

So upset, that right now I've decided to launch a non-profit, open collective organization called OOMA. Only One Messaging App.

OOMA will be comprised of the millions of people who are annoyed and upset at the result of tech companies competing for our communication. We are taking things into our own hands. We are agreeing to switch to ONE service, for ALL of our messaging needs. All of us, all over the world, all at once.

We are going to do 5 things, in order: 1. Choose a switch date. 2. Define a spec for the "perfect messaging app" (encryption, licensing, finance model, features, tech, etc.) 3. Invite companies to pitch their app, and/or secure funding to develop our own to spec. 4. Spread the word. 5. Make the switch.

I'm going to prepare a marketing web page and (ironically) a discord server right now. At the very worst it's a fun side project and way to express my anger.

EDIT: OOMA server is live. If you think an app is not the solution, come tell us why: https://discord.gg/CmdgUp

Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by 013a on Thursday December 06, 2018 @12:20AM (#18615644)
> a hardware specific messaging app is just stupid.

What's the old phrase? If it looks stupid but it works, its not stupid. Say hello to the world's most valuable public company and what is commonly regarded as the world's highest quality messaging network.

A truth technologists hate hearing: You cannot, under any circumstances, solve problems created by code by creating more code.

Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by yaacov on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:24PM (#18615394)
XKCD has a comic for just this situation: https://xkcd.com/927/
Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by brendanmc6 on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:31PM (#18615421)
Hahaha I had that in my copy clipboard while typing the post :)

For real though, has any sort of movement or organization tried to alleviate these problems without financial motivation?

Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by mxuribe on Thursday December 06, 2018 @09:52AM (#18618442)
I encourage you to read about matrix [https://matrix.org] - the protocol. In addition, there are numerous open source clients to use [https://matrix.org/docs/projects/clients-matrix]. Also, as far as organizations, matrix.org has recently become a foundation moving towards somewhat you described [https://matrix.org/blog/2018/10/29/introducing-the-matrix-or...].
Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by balladeer on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:48PM (#18615495)
I would say that would not be done by "an app", nor "a service with an API exposed", but by "a protocol" that other/most/all apps follow. Jabber/XMPP comes to mind, so does Matrix.
Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by dflock on Thursday December 06, 2018 @04:19AM (#18616497)
Ooooh - the worlds biggest bikeshed ;)
Re:The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts by brendanmc6 on Friday December 07, 2018 @12:01AM (#18625272)
Right, building another messaging app is not the right approach. But choosing one of the many existing solutions, and somehow convincing all of my social circle to move to it-- that's the problem I want to solve! Has anyone done it before?