Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by Relys on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:13PM (#18594575)

Yes, because in the long term electric vehicles consolidate fossil fuel emissions to a single large point (coal in this case) which can be eventually replaced with a clean energy source (i.e. solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, etc.).

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by baroffoos on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:29PM (#18594663)

Also coal powerplants run much more efficiently than a car engine.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by christophclarke on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:20PM (#18594968)

Internal combustion engines operate at about 25% efficiency (per this paper, page 54)

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/5764...

Coal power plants operate in the range of 34% efficiency

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=107&t=3

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_02.html

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by Rebelgecko on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:35PM (#18595081)

I wonder how much of that gets offset by transmission loss and the scooter's charging/discharging inefficiencies?

Not that that would be a reason not to use scooters in and off itself, since they're be posed to take advantage of grids that will hopefully become more and more renewable over time

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by baroffoos on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:35PM (#18595076)

Also they tend to be run very far away so you aren't getting a blast of pollution to the face every time you go outside

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by adtac on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:11PM (#18594916)

Is there a statistical report on this? I'm not contesting your claim, I'm just curious to see _how_ much more efficient.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by jeffwass on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:25PM (#18594646)

Additionally, the emissions of that consolidated power plant can be better filtered (eg particulates) than the corresponding thousands of disparate engines.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by solarkraft on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:49PM (#18594791)

It's also not directly in the city.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by knicholes on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:00PM (#18594855)

This is a big one. I live in Lehi, UT, in a place we call "Utah Valley." It's a bowl surrounded by mountains. When there's an inversion or when there's no storm to blow out the pollution, it sometimes reaches the top of the "worst air quality regions" scale. Moving the pollution to an area outside the bowl is a huge deal for me.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by beerlord on Monday December 03, 2018 @11:36PM (#18596308)

Plus transporting about 80kg of human, scooter and baggage is much less weight than human, car and baggage.

It would be interesting to calculate the MPG of these, including the overnight recharging and repositioning done inside a van.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by ams6110 on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @02:08AM (#18597037)

What is the injury rate, compared to cars?

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by MBlume on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @03:48PM (#18603465)

Scooters cause far fewer injuries than cars do

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by pfisch on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @01:35AM (#18606131)

Per capita? I’m not so sure about that. Especially in San Francisco.

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