Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by datenwolf on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:12PM (#18591886)

Outside of purposeful oscillators, positive feedback loops rarely are a desireable thing.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by sargun on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:15PM (#18591909)

I mean, maybe this is where neural networks that forget are valuable? They allow for exploration, and don't create local maximas in the same way?

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by briffle on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:51PM (#18591672)

Its bad in general, for sites like Facebook as well. People are now presented with news and stories that they are predicted arithmetically to like, in order to further "user interaction" (ie, more ad impressions). But this leads to an echo chamber, where people are not exposed to alternative ideas, contrasting viewpoints, etc. (And then, when they are my parents, call it 'fake news' when presented with them).

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by groby_b on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:53PM (#18592275)

It's worse. It's not an echo chamber - because the recommendation algos don't keep you with like minded people. They purposefully guide you towards more "engagement". And online, the most engagement can be had by trolling, not by agreeing with each other.

And "contrasting viewpoints" mean little when they're sheer lunacy.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by dvtrn on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:28PM (#18593801)

And online, the most engagement can be had by trolling, not by agreeing with each other.

The example that screams out to me reading this cmoment is Reddit and it's ability to sort comments and threads by "controversial".

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by behringer on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:48PM (#18591636)

You need to teach critical thinking skills. Not promote censorship. There's a lot of stupid things in the world you can't censor.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by 51lver on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:59PM (#18591746)

I do not for a second advocate censorship. No content should be barred from uploading, that should be a retroactive process always, otherwise free speech is impossible. Gotta make mistakes to learn from the correction, and that is especially true for young people unfamiliar with the law.

What I am against is machines feeding you more of what you just looked at. That's dangerous. It's too easy to end up VERY deep down dangerous rabbit holes. You should have to use critical thinking to explore your interests, not just get fed whatever will drive engagement.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by noobermin on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:29PM (#18592089)

Sure arguing against the algos is fine. THAT should be under discussion, not censorship. Censorship is an easy out because every fucking person on this board profits off of algos that drive people insane and unhealthy but censorship is an easy out to avoid confronting the real problem.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by 51lver on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:00PM (#18594034)

You hit the nail on the head there. Blacklists just don't work for users. They work for providers, but only for CYA. Users need tools to help them find good useful things.

This brings my morning routine to mind, which I explicitly designed to combat this feed poisoning that everyone is enduring. I literally hit the wikipedia random button every morning before I get out of bed. It's hooked into my morning alarm. I don't check feeds in the morning because I want to let my mind explore without someone influencing my focus, which helps me be more creative later in the day.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by noobermin on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @03:25PM (#18603296)

This actually sounds interesting and I'll try it.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by hsaliak on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:58PM (#18591745)

While this is ideal, critical thinking skills take time to develop.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by DanBC on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:51PM (#18591680)

That's not how mental illness works.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by behringer on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:01PM (#18592953)

The lack of critical thinking skills is a mental illness.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by 51lver on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:06PM (#18594079)

Some people are strong willed, some people are followers. Some people are deep thinkers, others are quick wits. Some people plan, and some only live in the moment. Everyone has different tools they use to navigate the world.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by behringer on Monday December 03, 2018 @11:11PM (#18596167)

Some people are going to grow up and be out on their own, and not have you around to censor for them. Everyone needs critical thinking skills. Without it, you're going to become a sucker, sooner or later.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by DanBC on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:08PM (#18601294)

Can you show me where it says this in either DSM or ICD?

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by jfrankamp on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:22PM (#18591997)

Classical critical thinking skills are great, and no match for reinforcement based suggestion engines. You might critically pick the best item from the 5 pieces of shit you are offered next, but comprehending how your viewing habits are being shaped over time by moving the _neutral_ point a half-a-degree is another thing entirely.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by guelo on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:26PM (#18592054)

Not getting promoted by a recommendation algorithm is not censorship.

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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by mulmen on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:18PM (#18591939)

Does knowledge of the obesity epidemic help anorexics?

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