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Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by twtw on Monday December 03, 2018 @11:56AM (#18590272)
> never ... help nouveau

https://lwn.net/Articles/568038/

Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by craftyguy on Monday December 03, 2018 @12:46PM (#18590921)
1) Those documents are no longer available (or the link is broken)

2) The contribution was actually not very helpful for nouveau, much of the information was already known. nvidia has done practically nothing since then to support nouveau in any meaningful way, with the exception of a one-off patchset to implement some support for Tegra.

I suspect you just found the first link that seemed to validate the point you are trying to make, without actually understanding what is actually (not) going on.

Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by twtw on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:05PM (#18591161)
1)link is broken

http://download.nvidia.com/open-gpu-doc/DCB/1/DCB-4.0-Specif...

> nvidia has done practically nothing since then to support nouveau in any meaningful way

There's an awful lot of stuff in that directory for that to be the case.

> suspect you just found the first link that seemed to validate the point you are trying to make, without actually understanding what is actually (not) going on.

Funny, I think the same thing when people say "nvidia never helps nouveau."

Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by craftyguy on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:20PM (#18591326)
Good thing nvidia hardware has not changed one bit since they released that limited amount of information in 2013!
Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by twtw on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:42PM (#18591586)
There's a reason I said "that directory" not "that file."

Cutting through the sarcasm, here's some Volta info: https://download.nvidia.com/open-gpu-doc/Display-Ref-Manuals...

As reported on in phoronix:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-V...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-V...

Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by xvilka on Monday December 03, 2018 @09:07PM (#18595343)
"Before getting too excited, this is strictly about the display hardware and not about the 3D engine, etc." - from the link you gave. So still a show but not a real help.
Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by jshap70 on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:28PM (#18591423)
that was 1 doc out of many on http://download.nvidia.com/open-gpu-doc/

multiple docs have been updated in this past year

Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by xvilka on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:17PM (#18591288)
It happened once and 5 years ago. And not a big deal anyway.
Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by xvilka on Monday December 03, 2018 @11:59AM (#18590297)
It is only a small piece of documentation Nouveau developers need. Looks more like a show than a genuine help. Also it is a link from 2013...
Re:PhysX SDK 4.0, an Open-Source Physics Engine by stefan_ on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:59PM (#18594465)
Isn't the current problem that modern cards will never exit a very low power boot up state with dogshit performance since that requires a signed firmware of some sort?

I think that sums it up nicely. Nvidia want the opensource driver to work just well enough that you can get a picture to install the proprietary one.