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Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by DavideNL on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:58AM (#18542730)
> How are any of the other platform providers any different?

One thing that comes to mind is that a phone is much more personal, carries much more personal data (health data, banking, etc.), and it's something you often interact with the entire day, every day.

So, with Apple closing down the iOS system (for example you cannot inspect/debug ios apps like you can do with apps on a laptop), you end up having less transparency and less control over what apps do with your personal data.

Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by scarface74 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @10:14AM (#18542875)
Your control over which apps have your personal data is far greater on iOS than Windows. You’re not going to inspect every app that you run on your computer, but an app on an iOS device is very limited by both the sandbox that they are in and the granular permissions that iOS provides.
Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by DavideNL on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:23PM (#18547829)
Coincidentally i just see this tweeted by Objective-see...

https://twitter.com/thomasareed/status/1067527911798919172

...which sums up the issue i meant.

Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by scarface74 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:53PM (#18548014)
So there is malware on the app that can’t be detected but they know it’s there?

What is this malware able to do? Intercept network traffic? Read other apps data? Surreptitiously record your screen? Turn on your camera? Turn on your Mic? Get to the Secure Enclave?

And then he said.

“Sounds reasonable, but how are you going to determine that when there’s no way to examine the app on the device? Forensic extraction of the app and analysis on a different platform is never going to be a mainstream solution for that.”

Like there ever is a “mainstream solution” to doing forensics.

And guess what? He works for malwarebytes. Anti virus companies have been trying to sell bogus “virus protection” for iOS for a decade.

Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by contextfree on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:07PM (#18544858)
UWP on Windows has a comparable sandbox and permissions system, although your post still probably describes the practical reality for most Windows users at the moment unfortunately.
Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by TheForumTroll on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:41AM (#18543831)
> iOS than Windows

Unless you mean Windows on a phone that is completely irrelevant. Unless (when) Apple starts putting only iOS on PC's.

Re:Antitrust, the App Store, and Apple by scarface74 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:59AM (#18544040)
Then what was the original poster comparing it to? People don’t inspect binary compiled apps on any device.